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Question Number 1229 by Rasheed Soomro last updated on 16/Jul/15
f( f(x) )=x^2 −x+1  f(x)=?  (Modification of Q 1147)
f(f(x))=x2x+1f(x)=?(ModificationofQ1147)
Commented by 123456 last updated on 17/Jul/15
f(f(x))=x^2 −x+1  f(f(f(x)))=(f(x))^2 −f(x)+1  f(x^2 −x+1)=(f(x))^2 −f(x)+1  (1−x)^2 −(1−x)+1=1−2x+x^2 −1+x+1=x^2 −x+1  f(x^2 −x+1)=(f(1−x))^2 −f(1−x)+1  f(x)(f(x)−1)=f(1−x)(f(1−x)−1)
f(f(x))=x2x+1f(f(f(x)))=(f(x))2f(x)+1f(x2x+1)=(f(x))2f(x)+1(1x)2(1x)+1=12x+x21+x+1=x2x+1f(x2x+1)=(f(1x))2f(1x)+1f(x)(f(x)1)=f(1x)(f(1x)1)
Commented by Rasheed Ahmad last updated on 18/Jul/15
Dear 123456  I understood your logic with   some difficulty.Actually your   explanation lacks in−between instructions  badly.Pl put some instructions   for clarification and also insert   some more steps in order to   to be understood easily.  Anyway now after understanding  I appreciate your logic.
Dear123456Iunderstoodyourlogicwithsomedifficulty.Actuallyyourexplanationlacksinbetweeninstructionsbadly.Plputsomeinstructionsforclarificationandalsoinsertsomemorestepsinordertotobeunderstoodeasily.AnywaynowafterunderstandingIappreciateyourlogic.
Commented by Rasheed Ahmad last updated on 17/Jul/15
Very good rule and very nice   feature you have discovered:  Rule: d(f•f)= [d(f)]^2   feature:  f( f(x) )=f( f(1−x) )  Appreciation for you!
Verygoodruleandverynicefeatureyouhavediscovered:Rule:d(ff)=[d(f)]2feature:f(f(x))=f(f(1x))Appreciationforyou!
Commented by Rasheed Ahmad last updated on 17/Jul/15
It can be proved that f(x) is not a  polynomial.
Itcanbeprovedthatf(x)isnotapolynomial.
Commented by 123456 last updated on 17/Jul/15
yes, because if d(f) is the degree of f  then the degree of f•f is d(f•f)=[d(f)]^2   then  [d(f)]^2 =2⇒d(f)=(√2)  wich is impossible  however its have some symetry, you easy  can see that  f(f(x))=f(f(1−x))
yes,becauseifd(f)isthedegreeoffthenthedegreeofffisd(ff)=[d(f)]2then[d(f)]2=2d(f)=2wichisimpossiblehoweveritshavesomesymetry,youeasycanseethatf(f(x))=f(f(1x))
Commented by 123456 last updated on 19/Jul/15
f(0)=1(from Q1147)  f(1)=1(from Q1147)  claim 1:f(x)=1 only if x=0 or x=1  proof:  suppose there are some x∉{0,1} such that f(x)=1, then  f(f(x))=x^2 −x+1  f(1)=x^2 −x+1  1=x^2 −x+1  x^2 −x=0  x(x−1)=0  x=0∨x=1  contradiction with the fact that x∉{0,1}  claim 2:f(0)=1  suppose that f(0)=a with a∉{0,1}  f(f(x))=x^2 −x+1  f(f(0))=1                      (x=0)  f(a)=1  contradction with claim 1.  but a≠0, because if a=0, then  f(f(0))=1  f(0)=1  contradiction with f(0)=a=0  claim 3:∄x,f(x)=0  suppose that there is some x that f(x)=0, then  f(f(x))=x^2 −x+1  f(0)=x^2 −x+1  by claim 2  1=x^2 −x+1  x=0∨x=1  contradction with f(0)=f(1)=1  claim 4:f(x)=x only for x=1  suppose that f(x)=x for some x≠1, then  f(f(x))=x^2 −x+1  f(x)=x^2 −x+1  x=x^2 −x+1  x^2 −2x+1=0  (x−1)^2 =0  x=1  wich contradict the fact that x≠1  −−−−−−−−−−−−−  x^2 −x+1=0  Δ=(−1)^2 −4(1)(1)=1−4=−3  x=((−(−1)±(√(−3)))/(2(1)))=((1±i(√3))/2)=e^(±iπ/3)   −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−  f(f(x))=x^2 −x+1  f(x)=y  f(y)=x^2 −x+1  f(f(f(x)))=(f(x))^2 −f(x)+1  f(f(y))=y^2 −y+1  f(y)=z  f(z)=y^2 −y+1  −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−  f(f(1/2))=3/4  f(3/4)=(f(1/2))^2 −f(1/2)+1
f(0)=1(fromQ1147)f(1)=1(fromQ1147)claim1:f(x)=1onlyifx=0orx=1proof:supposetherearesomex{0,1}suchthatf(x)=1,thenf(f(x))=x2x+1f(1)=x2x+11=x2x+1x2x=0x(x1)=0x=0x=1contradictionwiththefactthatx{0,1}claim2:f(0)=1supposethatf(0)=awitha{0,1}f(f(x))=x2x+1f(f(0))=1(x=0)f(a)=1contradctionwithclaim1.buta0,becauseifa=0,thenf(f(0))=1f(0)=1contradictionwithf(0)=a=0claim3:x,f(x)=0supposethatthereissomexthatf(x)=0,thenf(f(x))=x2x+1f(0)=x2x+1byclaim21=x2x+1x=0x=1contradctionwithf(0)=f(1)=1claim4:f(x)=xonlyforx=1supposethatf(x)=xforsomex1,thenf(f(x))=x2x+1f(x)=x2x+1x=x2x+1x22x+1=0(x1)2=0x=1wichcontradictthefactthatx1x2x+1=0Δ=(1)24(1)(1)=14=3x=(1)±32(1)=1±i32=e±iπ/3f(f(x))=x2x+1f(x)=yf(y)=x2x+1f(f(f(x)))=(f(x))2f(x)+1f(f(y))=y2y+1f(y)=zf(z)=y2y+1f(f(1/2))=3/4f(3/4)=(f(1/2))2f(1/2)+1

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