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Question Number 3548 by Yozzii last updated on 15/Dec/15
Find all solutions x to the equation  x^3 +bx^2 +cx+d=0 where b,c,d are   constants from C.
Findallsolutionsxtotheequationx3+bx2+cx+d=0whereb,c,dareconstantsfromC.
Answered by RasheedSindhi last updated on 15/Dec/15
Let b=b_1 +b_2 i          c=c_1 +c_2 i          d=d_1 +d_2 i  where b_1 ,b_2 ,c_1 ,c_2 ,d_1 ,d_2  are all reals  x^3 +b_1 x^2 +c_1 x+d_1 =0 ∧b_2 x^2 +c_2 x+d_2 =0
Letb=b1+b2ic=c1+c2id=d1+d2iwhereb1,b2,c1,c2,d1,d2areallrealsx3+b1x2+c1x+d1=0b2x2+c2x+d2=0
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 15/Dec/15
By substituting:  (x^3 +b_1 x^2 +c_1 x+d_1 )+i(b_2 x^2 +c_2 x+d_2 )=0  It cannot be inferred that   (b_2 x^2 +c_2 x+d_2 ) =0  unless it is given that x∈R.  If x∈C, then (b_2 x^2 +c_2 x+d_2 )=u+v(√(−1))
Bysubstituting:(x3+b1x2+c1x+d1)+i(b2x2+c2x+d2)=0Itcannotbeinferredthat(b2x2+c2x+d2)=0unlessitisgiventhatxR.IfxC,then(b2x2+c2x+d2)=u+v1
Commented by RasheedSindhi last updated on 15/Dec/15
THαnkS for guidance!
THαnkSforguidance!
Answered by prakash jain last updated on 15/Dec/15
x=y−(b/3)  (y−(b/3))^3 +b(y−(b/3))^2 +c(y−(b/3))+d=0  y^3 −by^2 +y(b^2 /3)−(b^3 /(27))+by^2 −2b^3 (y/3)+(b^3 /9)+cy−((bc)/3)+d=0  y^3 +y(c−(b^3 /3))+(d−((bc)/3)+((2b^3 )/(27)))=0  p=c−(b^3 /3), q=d−((bc)/3)+((2b^3 )/(27))  y^3 +py+q=0  subtitute y=u−v  (u−v)^3 +p(u−v)+q=0  (q−(v^3 −u^3 ))+(u−v)(p−3uv)=0  u−v is a solution if q=v^3 −u^3 , p=3uv  p=3uv⇒v=(p/(3u))  q=v^3 −u^3 ⇒q=(p^3 /(27u^3 ))−u^3     ....(A)  (A) is quadratic in u^3 ⇒u can be found  then we find v.  so we know u−v is solution.  once we know one solution of cubic then  other 2 can be found after factorizing.  There is also a cubic formula which is derived  based on the above steps. But it is very hard  even to type. The steps are easy to remember.
x=yb3(yb3)3+b(yb3)2+c(yb3)+d=0y3by2+yb23b327+by22b3y3+b39+cybc3+d=0y3+y(cb33)+(dbc3+2b327)=0p=cb33,q=dbc3+2b327y3+py+q=0subtitutey=uv(uv)3+p(uv)+q=0(q(v3u3))+(uv)(p3uv)=0uvisasolutionifq=v3u3,p=3uvp=3uvv=p3uq=v3u3q=p327u3u3.(A)(A)isquadraticinu3ucanbefoundthenwefindv.soweknowuvissolution.onceweknowonesolutionofcubicthenother2canbefoundafterfactorizing.Thereisalsoacubicformulawhichisderivedbasedontheabovesteps.Butitisveryhardeventotype.Thestepsareeasytoremember.
Commented by Yozzii last updated on 15/Dec/15
Thanks a lot. I′m wondering how  one creates such methods because  I′m interested now in solving   a good few of these polynomials,  perhaps up to degree 10 (being   terribly ambitious).
Thanksalot.ImwonderinghowonecreatessuchmethodsbecauseIminterestednowinsolvingagoodfewofthesepolynomials,perhapsuptodegree10(beingterriblyambitious).
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 15/Dec/15
Abel Ruffini Theorem: There is no general  algebraic solution for polynomial of degree  5 or higher with arbitrary coefficients.  So you cannot find a formula.  Formula upto degree 4 are already available.
AbelRuffiniTheorem:Thereisnogeneralalgebraicsolutionforpolynomialofdegree5orhigherwitharbitrarycoefficients.Soyoucannotfindaformula.Formulauptodegree4arealreadyavailable.
Commented by Yozzii last updated on 15/Dec/15
I see. It′d be good to learn the proofs  for degree 4.
Isee.Itdbegoodtolearntheproofsfordegree4.
Commented by Yozzii last updated on 15/Dec/15
After degree 4 we′d rely on   numerical methods only to solve  polynomials?
Afterdegree4wedrelyonnumericalmethodsonlytosolvepolynomials?
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 15/Dec/15
For a general equation with arbitrary coefficients  only numeric solution. However there are  equation of degree 5 which can be solved  if coefficients meet certain criteria.  So for your further study you may want to  work on solvable equation and extending  the result wherever you can.
Forageneralequationwitharbitrarycoefficientsonlynumericsolution.Howeverthereareequationofdegree5whichcanbesolvedifcoefficientsmeetcertaincriteria.Soforyourfurtherstudyyoumaywanttoworkonsolvableequationandextendingtheresultwhereveryoucan.

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