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Question Number 5965 by love math last updated on 07/Jun/16
log_(1/2) (x^2 +7x+12)>log_(x+5) (x^2 +7x+12)
log12(x2+7x+12)>logx+5(x2+7x+12)
Commented by Yozzii last updated on 07/Jun/16
((lnu)/(ln0.5))>((lnu)/(ln(x+5)))    (change of base/u=x^2 +7x+12)  lnu((1/(ln0.5))−(1/(ln(x+5))))>0  −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−  (1) lnu>0 and (1/(ln0.5))>(1/(ln(x+5)))  u>e^0 =1                       x^2 +7x+12>1  x^2 +7x+11>0  (x+((7+(√5))/2))(x+((7−(√5))/2))>0  ⇒x∈[(−∞,−((7+(√5))/2)≈−4.62)∪((((√5)−7)/2)≈−2.38,+∞)]...(i)    Also, (1/(ln0.5))>(1/(ln(x+5)))  ((ln(x+5)−ln0.5)/((ln0.5)ln(x+5)))>0  ((ln(2(x+5)))/(ln(x+5)))<0  (ln0.5<0)  ⇒(1) ln(2(x+5))>0 & ln(x+5)<0  ⇒2(x+5)>1 & 0<x+5<1  x>−4.5   & −5<x<−4 ⇒x∈(−4.5,−4).  ⇒(2) ln(2(x+5))<0 & ln(x+5)>0  ⇒−5<x<−4.5 & x>−4  (impossible)  ∴ x∈(−4.5,−4)....(ii)  The region of overlap of (i) and (ii)  is empty.  −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−  lnu<0 and (1/(ln0.5))−(1/(ln(x+5)))<0  lnu<0⇒0<(x+4)(x+3)<1⇒x∈[(−((7+(√5))/2),−4)∪(−3,(((√5)−7)/2))]........ (i)    (1/(ln0.5))−(1/(ln(x+5)))<0⇒((ln(2(x+5)))/(ln(x+5)))>0  ⇒(1) ln(2(x+5))>0 & ln(x+5)>0  x>−4.5  & x>−4⇒x>−4  (2)ln(2(x+5))<0  & ln(x+5)<0  0<2(x+5)<1  &0<x+5<1  −5<x<−4.5  &−5<x<−4⇒ x∈(−5,−4.5)  ∴ x∈[(−4,+∞)∪(−5,−4.5)]....(ii)  Region of overlap of (i) and (ii) is  is x∈[(−((5+(√7))/2),−(9/2))∪(−3,(((√5)−7)/2))].  −−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−−  Answer: x∈[(((−5−(√7))/2),−(9/2))∪(−3,(((√5)−7)/2))]
lnuln0.5>lnuln(x+5)(changeofbase/u=x2+7x+12)lnu(1ln0.51ln(x+5))>0(1)lnu>0and1ln0.5>1ln(x+5)u>e0=1x2+7x+12>1x2+7x+11>0(x+7+52)(x+752)>0x[(,7+524.62)(5722.38,+)](i)Also,1ln0.5>1ln(x+5)ln(x+5)ln0.5(ln0.5)ln(x+5)>0ln(2(x+5))ln(x+5)<0(ln0.5<0)(1)ln(2(x+5))>0&ln(x+5)<02(x+5)>1&0<x+5<1x>4.5&5<x<4x(4.5,4).(2)ln(2(x+5))<0&ln(x+5)>05<x<4.5&x>4(impossible)x(4.5,4).(ii)Theregionofoverlapof(i)and(ii)isempty.lnu<0and1ln0.51ln(x+5)<0lnu<00<(x+4)(x+3)<1x[(7+52,4)(3,572)]..(i)1ln0.51ln(x+5)<0ln(2(x+5))ln(x+5)>0(1)ln(2(x+5))>0&ln(x+5)>0x>4.5&x>4x>4(2)ln(2(x+5))<0&ln(x+5)<00<2(x+5)<1&0<x+5<15<x<4.5&5<x<4x(5,4.5)x[(4,+)(5,4.5)].(ii)Regionofoverlapof(i)and(ii)isisx[(5+72,92)(3,572)].Answer:x[(572,92)(3,572)]
Commented by love math last updated on 07/Jun/16
Then what need to do?
Thenwhatneedtodo?
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 08/Jun/16
Yozzi considered two cases where  ln (x^2 +7x+12)>0  and second case ln (x^2 +7x+12)<0  range of valid x is also in the answer.
Yozziconsideredtwocaseswhereln(x2+7x+12)>0andsecondcaseln(x2+7x+12)<0rangeofvalidxisalsointheanswer.
Answered by Ashis last updated on 07/Jun/16
log(x+5)>log(1/2)  =>log(2x+10)>0  =>2x+10>1  =>x>−(9/2)
log(x+5)>log(1/2)=>log(2x+10)>0=>2x+10>1=>x>92
Commented by Yozzii last updated on 07/Jun/16
What if x=−3? Does the inequality   hold if we assume the logarithm is real valued?
Whatifx=3?Doestheinequalityholdifweassumethelogarithmisrealvalued?
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 08/Jun/16
Just to add to Yozzi′s comment.  Complex logarithm and logs of −ve numbers  are complex number and inequality does  not make sense. So real valued logs are  only required.  x∈[−3,−4],x^2 +7x+12≤0 so log cannot be taken.
JusttoaddtoYozziscomment.Complexlogarithmandlogsofvenumbersarecomplexnumberandinequalitydoesnotmakesense.Sorealvaluedlogsareonlyrequired.x[3,4],x2+7x+120sologcannotbetaken.

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