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Question Number 2655 by Yozzi last updated on 24/Nov/15
Prove by contradiction that there  are no whole number solutions (x,y,z)  to the equation z^2 =x^2 +y^2   where both x and y are odd.
Provebycontradictionthattherearenowholenumbersolutions(x,y,z)totheequationz2=x2+y2wherebothxandyareodd.
Answered by prakash jain last updated on 24/Nov/15
Let us assume that such a solution exists  j,k,l∈N∪{0}  x=2k+1  y=2j+1  since x,y are odd z must be even  z=2l  z^2 =x^2 +y^2   4l^2 =4k^2 +4k+1+4j^2 +4j+1  l^2 =k^2 +k+j^2 +j+(1/2)  l^2  is a fraction. Contradicts that z is a whole  number or l is a whole number.
Letusassumethatsuchasolutionexistsj,k,lN{0}x=2k+1y=2j+1sincex,yareoddzmustbeevenz=2lz2=x2+y24l2=4k2+4k+1+4j2+4j+1l2=k2+k+j2+j+12l2isafraction.Contradictsthatzisawholenumberorlisawholenumber.
Commented by Rasheed Soomro last updated on 24/Nov/15
Inspiring!
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Answered by Filup last updated on 24/Nov/15
z^2 =x^2 +y^2   z∈Z when:  odd x=2t+1   t∈Z  odd y=2t+3   t∈Z    z^2 =(2t+1)^2 +(2t+3)^2   =(4t^2 +2t+1+(4t^2 +6t+9))  =(8t^2 +8t+10)  =2(4t(t+1)+5)    z=(√(2(4t(t+1)+5)))  =(√4)(√(2t(t+1)+(5/2)))  z=2(√(2t(t+1)+(5/2)))   where  t∈Z  2t(t+1)=whole number      continue?
z2=x2+y2zZwhen:oddx=2t+1tZoddy=2t+3tZz2=(2t+1)2+(2t+3)2=(4t2+2t+1+(4t2+6t+9))=(8t2+8t+10)=2(4t(t+1)+5)z=2(4t(t+1)+5)=42t(t+1)+52z=22t(t+1)+52wheretZ2t(t+1)=wholenumbercontinue?
Commented by Filup last updated on 24/Nov/15
I just realised I was only proving for z.  I mis−read the question. Didn′t  realise you wanted x and y, too...
IjustrealisedIwasonlyprovingforz.Imisreadthequestion.Didntrealiseyouwantedxandy,too
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 24/Nov/15
You started with x=2t+1 and y=2t+3  the question only said x and y are odd and  did not state that x and y are consecutive  odd numbers.  The last part of your conclusion  z=2(√(2t(t+1)+(5/2)))  is valid since you have  a fraction under the root sign so you  cannot get a whole number.  Also proving for z is sufficient as the question  only requires to prove that condition on  all 3 variables are not satisfied simultaneously.  So proving by assuming 2 variables meet  condition and creating a contradiction on  3rd is sufficient.
Youstartedwithx=2t+1andy=2t+3thequestiononlysaidxandyareoddanddidnotstatethatxandyareconsecutiveoddnumbers.Thelastpartofyourconclusionz=22t(t+1)+52isvalidsinceyouhaveafractionundertherootsignsoyoucannotgetawholenumber.Alsoprovingforzissufficientasthequestiononlyrequirestoprovethatconditiononall3variablesarenotsatisfiedsimultaneously.Soprovingbyassuming2variablesmeetconditionandcreatingacontradictionon3rdissufficient.
Commented by Filup last updated on 24/Nov/15
2t+1  and  2t+3 are odd, though?
2t+1and2t+3areodd,though?
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 24/Nov/15
Yes. But consecutive odd number. So  the conditions are more restrictive than  required by question.
Yes.Butconsecutiveoddnumber.Sotheconditionsaremorerestrictivethanrequiredbyquestion.
Commented by Filup last updated on 25/Nov/15
I understand now
Iunderstandnow

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