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Question Number 133642 by liberty last updated on 23/Feb/21
Commented by liberty last updated on 23/Feb/21
dear Mr W, Mr Edwin and all master
dearMrW,MrEdwinandallmaster
Answered by bobhans last updated on 23/Feb/21
It′s the same as the number of ways  of placing 2 identical dividers in  a line of 12 identical 12 balls ,which  is the same as the number of ways  of choosing 2 items from 14   distinct items = C _2^(14)  = 91
Itsthesameasthenumberofwaysofplacing2identicaldividersinalineof12identical12balls,whichisthesameasthenumberofwaysofchoosing2itemsfrom14distinctitems=C214=91
Commented by liberty last updated on 23/Feb/21
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Answered by mr W last updated on 23/Feb/21
□∣□∣□∣□∣□∣□∣□∣□∣□∣□∣□∣□  if no box is empty, then the answer is  C_(3−1) ^(12−1) =C_2 ^(11) =55
◻◻◻◻◻◻◻◻◻◻◻◻ifnoboxisempty,thentheanswerisC31121=C211=55
Commented by liberty last updated on 23/Feb/21
how you got C_2 ^(11)  sir?  let the boxes namely A,B and C  (1,1,10),(1,2,9),(1,3,8),(1,4,7)  (1,5,6),(2,2,8),(2,3,7)...
howyougotC211sir?lettheboxesnamelyA,BandC(1,1,10),(1,2,9),(1,3,8),(1,4,7)(1,5,6),(2,2,8),(2,3,7)
Commented by mr W last updated on 23/Feb/21
as shown above, we have 12 balls □, to  divide them into 3 groups we only  need to place 2 bars ∣ among them.  there are 11 possible positions ∣ to  place these 2 bars, so the answer is  C_2 ^(11) . this method is called “stars and  bars” method.
asshownabove,wehave12balls◻,todividetheminto3groupsweonlyneedtoplace2barsamongthem.thereare11possiblepositionstoplacethese2bars,sotheanswerisC211.thismethodiscalledstarsandbarsmethod.
Commented by mr W last updated on 23/Feb/21
or an other way:  (x+x^2 +x^3 +...)^3 =(x^3 /((1−x)^3 ))=x^3 Σ_(k=0) ^∞ C_2 ^(k+2) x^k   coef. of x^(12)  is the answer =C_2 ^(9+2) =C_2 ^(11)     if the boxes may be empty, then  (1+x+x^2 +x^3 +...)^3 =(1/((1−x)^3 ))=Σ_(k=0) ^∞ C_2 ^(k+2) x^k   coef. of x^(12)  is the answer =C_2 ^(12+2) =C_2 ^(14) =91
oranotherway:(x+x2+x3+)3=x3(1x)3=x3k=0C2k+2xkcoef.ofx12istheanswer=C29+2=C211iftheboxesmaybeempty,then(1+x+x2+x3+)3=1(1x)3=k=0C2k+2xkcoef.ofx12istheanswer=C212+2=C214=91
Commented by liberty last updated on 23/Feb/21
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Commented by mr W last updated on 23/Feb/21
but to divide 12 distinct balls into 3  distinct boxes there are 519156 ways!
buttodivide12distinctballsinto3distinctboxesthereare519156ways!
Commented by liberty last updated on 23/Feb/21
how to find it?
howtofindit?
Commented by mr W last updated on 23/Feb/21
using generating function it is the  coefficient of x^(12)  term in the  expansion of 12!(e^x −1)^3 .
usinggeneratingfunctionitisthecoefficientofx12termintheexpansionof12!(ex1)3.
Answered by EDWIN88 last updated on 23/Feb/21
the question is equivalent to how many   positive number integer solution a+b+c = 12  = C_2 ^( 11)  = 55   but if the equation how many non negatif number  (whole number ) are there a+b+c=100  = C_2 ^( 14)  = 91
thequestionisequivalenttohowmanypositivenumberintegersolutiona+b+c=12=C211=55butiftheequationhowmanynonnegatifnumber(wholenumber)aretherea+b+c=100=C214=91
Commented by liberty last updated on 23/Feb/21
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Answered by JDamian last updated on 23/Feb/21
This can be thought as the number of  Permutations with repetition of  12 balls + (3−1) separators    •••◊••••◊•••••    (((12+3−1)!)/(12! ∙ (3−1)!)) = ((14!)/(12! ∙ 2!)) = C_2 ^(14)
ThiscanbethoughtasthenumberofPermutationswithrepetitionof12balls+(31)separators(12+31)!12!(31)!=14!12!2!=C214

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