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Question Number 2160 by Yozzis last updated on 05/Nov/15
Solve the d.e  sin((d^3 y/dt^3 ))+3t^2 y=6t.
Solvethed.esin(d3ydt3)+3t2y=6t.
Commented by Yozzi last updated on 07/Nov/15
I was helping a friend with his   engineering math homework and   he therefore took a picture of the problem.  It was a worksheet. I answered the question but  but in that picture I saw a number of   strange D.Es as part of another exercise. The exercise was to simply  identify the type of D.E but I thought,  ′How would one solve it or prove it is  unsolvable?′ The D.E problem above  this problem was also from the set  of strange D.Es I saw.  Yozzis=Yozzi
Iwashelpingafriendwithhisengineeringmathhomeworkandhethereforetookapictureoftheproblem.Itwasaworksheet.IansweredthequestionbutbutinthatpictureIsawanumberofstrangeD.Esaspartofanotherexercise.TheexercisewastosimplyidentifythetypeofD.EbutIthought,Howwouldonesolveitorproveitisunsolvable?TheD.EproblemabovethisproblemwasalsofromthesetofstrangeD.EsIsaw.Yozzis=Yozzi
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 07/Nov/15
Difficult. Did you come across this while  working on physics problem?
Difficult.Didyoucomeacrossthiswhileworkingonphysicsproblem?
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 08/Nov/15
assuming y can be differentiated 4 times  cos ((d^3 y/dt^4 ))(d^4 y/dt^4 )=6−6ty−3t^2  (dy/dt)  cos ((d^3 y/dt^4 ))=((d^4 y/dt^4 ))^(−1) (6−6ty−3t^2  (dy/dt))  1=36t^2 +((d^4 y/dt^4 ))^((−2)) (6−6ty−3t^2 (dy/dt))^2   The above equation appears solvable with  series expansion.
assumingycanbedifferentiated4timescos(d3ydt4)d4ydt4=66ty3t2dydtcos(d3ydt4)=(d4ydt4)1(66ty3t2dydt)1=36t2+(d4ydt4)(2)(66ty3t2dydt)2Theaboveequationappearssolvablewithseriesexpansion.
Answered by prakash jain last updated on 08/Nov/15
Trying with variable substitution  to remove sin function of a differnetial.  y=(2/t)−(1/(3t^2 ))sin u  sin ((d^3 y/dt^3 ))=6t−3t^2 y=6t−6t+sin u  (d^3 y/dt^3 )= u  computing (d^3 y/dt^3 ) in terms of u and t  (dy/dt)=−(2/t^2 )+(2/(3t^3 ))sin u−(1/(3t^2 ))cos u(du/dt)  (d^2 y/dt^2 )=(4/t^3 )+(2/(3t^3 ))cos u(du/dt)−(2/t^4 )sin u+(2/(3t^3 ))cos u(du/dt)                 −(1/(3t^2 ))cos u(d^2 u/dt^2 )+(1/(3t^2 ))sin u((du/dt))^2   =(4/t^3 )+(4/(3t^3 ))cos u(du/dt)−(2/t^4 )sin u−(1/(3t^2 ))cos u(d^2 u/dt^2 )+(1/(3t^2 ))sin u((du/dt))^2   (d^3 y/dt^3 )=−((12)/t^4 )−(4/t^4 )cos u(du/dt)+(4/(3t^3 ))cos u(d^2 u/dt^2 )−(4/(3t^3 ))sin u((du/dt))^2            +(8/t^5 )sin u−(2/t^4 )cos u(du/dt)           +(2/(3t^3 ))cos u(d^2 u/dt^3 )+(1/(3t^2 ))sin u((du/dt))−(1/(3t^2 ))cos u(d^3 u/dt^3 )          +(4/t^4 )sin u((du/dt))^2 −(4/(3t^3 ))cos u((du/dt))^3 −(4/(3t^3 ))sin u(2(du/dt))((d^2 u/dt^2 ))  we get an equation between t and u.  still a very difficult equation
Tryingwithvariablesubstitutiontoremovesinfunctionofadiffernetial.y=2t13t2sinusin(d3ydt3)=6t3t2y=6t6t+sinud3ydt3=ucomputingd3ydt3intermsofuandtdydt=2t2+23t3sinu13t2cosududtd2ydt2=4t3+23t3cosududt2t4sinu+23t3cosududt13t2cosud2udt2+13t2sinu(dudt)2=4t3+43t3cosududt2t4sinu13t2cosud2udt2+13t2sinu(dudt)2d3ydt3=12t44t4cosududt+43t3cosud2udt243t3sinu(dudt)2+8t5sinu2t4cosududt+23t3cosud2udt3+13t2sinu(dudt)13t2cosud3udt3+4t4sinu(dudt)243t3cosu(dudt)343t3sinu(2dudt)(d2udt2)wegetanequationbetweentandu.stillaverydifficultequation

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