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Question Number 2936 by Rasheed Soomro last updated on 30/Nov/15
Suppose I want to prove a statement,say P(n),   for natural numbers mathematical induction  is a proper tool for me.  If a P(n) is required to prove for natural n≥c   mathematical induction is again a tool of proof.    Now suppose I have a statement which is true  only for   c_1 ≤ n∈N ≤c_2 _(−)  . Could I get help for proof   from my old friend mathematical induction?  If yes how?
SupposeIwanttoproveastatement,sayP(n),fornaturalnumbersmathematicalinductionisapropertoolforme.IfaP(n)isrequiredtoprovefornaturalncmathematicalinductionisagainatoolofproof.NowsupposeIhaveastatementwhichistrueonlyforc1nNc2.CouldIgethelpforprooffrommyoldfriendmathematicalinduction?Ifyeshow?
Commented by Filup last updated on 01/Dec/15
I belive mathematical induction is used  to prove ∀n∈P(n):{n∈N≥c_1 }.  I am unsure as to if you can prove within  the bounds such that you can show  ∀n∈P(n):{c_1 ≤n∈N≤c_2 }.    If it was possible, it may be wise to work  with and solve for:  i) ∀n∉P(n):{n∈N≤c_1 }  ii) ∀n∉P(n):{n∈N≥c_2 }
IbelivemathematicalinductionisusedtoprovenP(n):{nNc1}.IamunsureastoifyoucanprovewithintheboundssuchthatyoucanshownP(n):{c1nNc2}.Ifitwaspossible,itmaybewisetoworkwithandsolvefor:i)nP(n):{nNc1}ii)nP(n):{nNc2}
Commented by Filup last updated on 01/Dec/15
I don′t know much of this topic to be  of any help. Sorry
Idontknowmuchofthistopictobeofanyhelp.Sorry
Commented by Rasheed Soomro last updated on 01/Dec/15
Yes Filup you are right.  In the mentioned case mathematical induction  couldn′t help.
YesFilupyouareright.Inthementionedcasemathematicalinductioncouldnthelp.
Commented by 123456 last updated on 02/Dec/15
we can use it to proof things to Z  P(n)→P(n+1)  P(n)→P(n−1)  i think that there some way to use it  c_1 ≤n≤c_2   but probraly the bounds will be involved  into inductive step
wecanuseittoproofthingstoZP(n)P(n+1)P(n)P(n1)ithinkthattheresomewaytouseitc1nc2butprobralytheboundswillbeinvolvedintoinductivestep
Commented by Rasheed Soomro last updated on 02/Dec/15
Could you clear with an example?
Couldyouclearwithanexample?

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