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Question Number 65859 by ajfour last updated on 05/Aug/19
x^4 +5x^2 +20x+104=0  solve for x.
x4+5x2+20x+104=0solveforx.
Answered by ajfour last updated on 05/Aug/19
a=5, b=20, c=104  p^6 +2ap^4 +(a^2 −4c)p^2 −b^2 =0  p^6 +10p^4 −391p^2 −400=0  ⇒  p^2 = −25, −1, 16   x^2 −px+(1/2)(p^2 +a+(b/p))=0  For  p^2 =−25_(−)  first let  p=5i   x^2 −5ix+(1/2)(−25+5−4i)=0   x^2 −5ix−10−2i=0  x=((5i±(√(−25+40+8i)))/2)    =((5i±(√(15+8i)))/2)  let  (r+mi)^2 =15+8i  ⇒  r^2 −m^2 +(2mr)i=15+8i  ⇒  r^2 −m^2 =15  ,  mr=4  ⇒ r^2 −((16)/r^2 )=15  ⇒  r^4 −15r^2 −16=0  ⇒  r^2 =16, −1   (but r^2 ≥0 ⇒ r^2 ≠−1)  ⇒  m=±1  ⇒  r+mi= ±(4+i)  so   x=((5i±(4+i))/2)   ⇒ x_1 =2+3i  , x_2 =−2+2i  and for p=−5i   x^2 +5ix+(1/2)(−25+5+4i)=0  x^2 +5ix−10+2i=0  x=((−5i±(√(−25+40−8i)))/2)     = ((−5i±(√(15−8i)))/2)  let  (r+mi)^2 =15−8i  ⇒ r^2 −m^2 =15 ,  mr=−4  ⇒  r^2 −((16)/r^2 )=15  ⇒ r^2 =16 , m=±1  ⇒  r+mi=±(4−i)  x=((−5i±(4−i))/2)  x_3 =2−3i  ,  x_4 =−2−2i  similarly for p=±1  Now for p=±4_(−)   x^2 ∓4x+(1/2)(21±5)=0  ⇒x^2 −4x+13=0 & x^2 +4x+8=0  ⇒ x_1 ,x_2 =2±3i  &  x_3 ,x_4 =−2±2i  (fine formula i developed;    handles all biquadratics with    real coefficients real well,    i dont just imagine!)
a=5,b=20,c=104p6+2ap4+(a24c)p2b2=0p6+10p4391p2400=0p2=25,1,16x2px+12(p2+a+bp)=0Forp2=25firstletp=5ix25ix+12(25+54i)=0x25ix102i=0x=5i±25+40+8i2=5i±15+8i2let(r+mi)2=15+8ir2m2+(2mr)i=15+8ir2m2=15,mr=4r216r2=15r415r216=0r2=16,1(butr20r21)m=±1r+mi=±(4+i)sox=5i±(4+i)2x1=2+3i,x2=2+2iandforp=5ix2+5ix+12(25+5+4i)=0x2+5ix10+2i=0x=5i±25+408i2=5i±158i2let(r+mi)2=158ir2m2=15,mr=4r216r2=15r2=16,m=±1r+mi=±(4i)x=5i±(4i)2x3=23i,x4=22isimilarlyforp=±1Nowforp=±4x24x+12(21±5)=0x24x+13=0&x2+4x+8=0x1,x2=2±3i&x3,x4=2±2i(fineformulaideveloped;handlesallbiquadraticswithrealcoefficientsrealwell,idontjustimagine!)
Commented by ajfour last updated on 05/Aug/19
Its Time to try quintic again.
ItsTimetotryquinticagain.
Commented by mr W last updated on 05/Aug/19
that′s great!
thatsgreat!
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
This is great sir. God bless you sir.
Thisisgreatsir.Godblessyousir.
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
Sir,  what if we have:      mx^4  + ax^3  + bx^2  + cx + d  =  0    we must divide through by  m ?   to make coefficient of  x^4    to be   1  ?
Sir,whatifwehave:mx4+ax3+bx2+cx+d=0wemustdividethroughbym?tomakecoefficientofx4tobe1?
Commented by behi83417@gmail.com last updated on 05/Aug/19
nice method sir Ajfour.I love it.  thanks for sharing this knowldege.
nicemethodsirAjfour.Iloveit.thanksforsharingthisknowldege.
Commented by ajfour last updated on 05/Aug/19
yes we should divide it by m, then.  thanks behi  sir.
yesweshoulddivideitbym,then.thanksbehisir.
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
Oh, great sir.  Thanks so much. More knowledge and more  discovery
Oh,greatsir.Thankssomuch.Moreknowledgeandmorediscovery
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
Have not underdtand one thing sir.  How is   p^2   =  − 25, − 1, 16
Havenotunderdtandonethingsir.Howisp2=25,1,16
Commented by ajfour last updated on 05/Aug/19
solving it as a cubic eq. in p^2 .
solvingitasacubiceq.inp2.
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
God bless you sir.
Godblessyousir.
Commented by ajfour last updated on 05/Aug/19
p^6 +10p^4 −391p^2 −400=0  let p^2 =u  u^3 +Au^2 +Bu+C=0  let u=z−(A/3)  z^3 −Au^2 +((A^2 z)/3)−(A^3 /(27))+  Au^2 −((2A^2 z)/3)+(A^3 /9)+Bz−((AB)/3)+C=0  ⇒   z^3 +(B−(A^2 /3))z+(((2A^3 )/(27))−((AB)/3)+C)=0  call it  z^3 +Pz+Q=0   If    (Q^2 /4)+(P^( 3) /(27)) < 0  there are three solutions to z,  called trigonometric solution  to a standard cubic; i never  could remember the result;  so i had just used calculator  to get p^2  from the eq. in p^2 .
p6+10p4391p2400=0letp2=uu3+Au2+Bu+C=0letu=zA3z3Au2+A2z3A327+Au22A2z3+A39+BzAB3+C=0z3+(BA23)z+(2A327AB3+C)=0callitz3+Pz+Q=0IfQ24+P327<0therearethreesolutionstoz,calledtrigonometricsolutiontoastandardcubic;inevercouldremembertheresult;soihadjustusedcalculatortogetp2fromtheeq.inp2.
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
Wow, God bless you sir.  But i will use factorization sir
Wow,Godblessyousir.Butiwillusefactorizationsir
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
since i can know one factor by trial and error
sinceicanknowonefactorbytrialanderror
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
or i can use sir  MrW  formular posted on cubic equation
oricanusesirMrWformularpostedoncubicequation
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
Sir, in the equation,  no term in    x^3 .   it means the method cannot  work for     ax^4  + bx^3  + cx^2  + dx + e  =  0     except    ax^4  + bx^2  + cx + d = 0  just want to know sir.
Sir,intheequation,noterminx3.itmeansthemethodcannotworkforax4+bx3+cx2+dx+e=0exceptax4+bx2+cx+d=0justwanttoknowsir.
Commented by mr W last updated on 05/Aug/19
eqn. with x^3  term can be transformed  to an eqn. without x^3  term using a simple  substitution x=t−(a/4) where a is the  coefficient of x^3  term. see Q65830.
eqn.withx3termcanbetransformedtoaneqn.withoutx3termusingasimplesubstitutionx=ta4whereaisthecoefficientofx3term.seeQ65830.
Commented by TawaTawa last updated on 05/Aug/19
Just checked now sir.  God bless you sir.  i now understand all
Justcheckednowsir.Godblessyousir.inowunderstandall