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Question Number 128751 by bemath last updated on 10/Jan/21
Find maximum value of    ∣x∣ (√(16−y^2 )) + ∣y∣ (√(4−x^2 )) for all real x and y.
Findmaximumvalueofx16y2+y4x2forallrealxandy.
Answered by mr W last updated on 10/Jan/21
a=∣x∣=2 sin α ≥0, 0≤α≤(π/2)  b=∣y∣=4 sin β ≥0, 0≤β≤(π/2)  a(√(4^2 −b^2 ))+b(√(2^2 −a^2 ))  =8 sin α cos β+8 sin β cos α  =8 sin (α+β)  max. =8 at sin (α+β)=1, e.g. α=β=(π/4)
a=∣x∣=2sinα0,0απ2b=∣y∣=4sinβ0,0βπ2a42b2+b22a2=8sinαcosβ+8sinβcosα=8sin(α+β)max.=8atsin(α+β)=1,e.g.α=β=π4
Commented by liberty last updated on 10/Jan/21
i think not 8 is maximum value
ithinknot8ismaximumvalue
Commented by mr W last updated on 10/Jan/21
if the maximum from 8 sin (α+β)  is not 8, then i don′t unterstand this   world any more :)
ifthemaximumfrom8sin(α+β)isnot8,thenidontunterstandthisworldanymore:)
Commented by liberty last updated on 10/Jan/21
what is the reason by assuming∣x∣ = 2 sin α ?
whatisthereasonbyassumingx=2sinα?
Commented by mr W last updated on 10/Jan/21
since 4−x^2 ≥0 ⇒∣x∣≤2
since4x20⇒∣x∣⩽2
Commented by liberty last updated on 10/Jan/21
ok. you are right.
ok.youareright.
Answered by liberty last updated on 10/Jan/21
 Using the inequality  xy ≤ ((x^2 +y^2 )/2)   we have  { ((∣x∣ (√(16−y^2 )) ≤ ((x^2 +16−y^2 )/2))),((∣y∣ (√(4−x^2 )) ≤ ((y^2 +4−x^2 )/2))) :}  adding the both equation we find    ∣x∣ (√(16−y^2 )) + ∣y∣ (√(4−x^2 )) ≤ ((x^2 +16−y^2 +y^2 +4−x^2 )/2) = 10  ∴ its maximum value is 10
Usingtheinequalityxyx2+y22wehave{x16y2x2+16y22y4x2y2+4x22addingthebothequationwefindx16y2+y4x2x2+16y2+y2+4x22=10itsmaximumvalueis10
Commented by mr W last updated on 10/Jan/21
can you say what values  x and y have  such that you reach the maximum  10?
canyousaywhatvaluesxandyhavesuchthatyoureachthemaximum10?
Commented by liberty last updated on 10/Jan/21
10 is only an upper bound but cannot be   attained since the inequality xy ≤ ((x^2 +y^2 )/2)  holds if and only if x=y , therefore the max  value is attained ∣x∣ =(√(16−y^2 )) and ∣y∣=(√(4−x^2 ))  or x^2 =16−y^2  and y^2 =4−x^2  ⇔ x^2 +y^2 = 16=4  contradictory !
10isonlyanupperboundbutcannotbeattainedsincetheinequalityxyx2+y22holdsifandonlyifx=y,thereforethemaxvalueisattainedx=16y2andy∣=4x2orx2=16y2andy2=4x2x2+y2=16=4contradictory!
Commented by mr W last updated on 10/Jan/21
correct!  so be careful when adding two or  more inequalities if they are not  independent from each other!
correct!sobecarefulwhenaddingtwoormoreinequalitiesiftheyarenotindependentfromeachother!
Answered by mr W last updated on 10/Jan/21
an other way:  f(a,b)=a(√(16−b^2 ))+b(√(4−a^2 ))  (∂f/∂a)=(√(16−b^2 ))−((ab)/( (√(4−a^2 ))))=0  (∂f/∂b)=−((ab)/( (√(16−b^2 ))))+(√(4−a^2 ))=0  ⇒ab=(√((4−a^2 )(16−b^2 )))  ⇒4a^2 +b^2 =16  ⇒16−b^2 =4a^2   ⇒b=2(√(4−a^2 ))  ⇒f_(max) =2a^2 +2(√(4−a^2 ))×(√(4−a^2 ))=8
anotherway:f(a,b)=a16b2+b4a2fa=16b2ab4a2=0fb=ab16b2+4a2=0ab=(4a2)(16b2)4a2+b2=1616b2=4a2b=24a2fmax=2a2+24a2×4a2=8
Commented by liberty last updated on 10/Jan/21
yes. nice
yes.nice

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