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Question Number 114208 by aurpeyz last updated on 17/Sep/20
find the greatest coeeficient in the expansion  of (3+4x)^(−5)
findthegreatestcoeeficientintheexpansionof(3+4x)5
Commented by I want to learn more last updated on 17/Sep/20
Please how sir
Pleasehowsir
Commented by mr W last updated on 17/Sep/20
no maximum, no minimum!
nomaximum,nominimum!
Commented by aurpeyz last updated on 18/Sep/20
why?
why?
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Sep/20
(3+4x)^(−5)   =3^(−5) ×(1+(4/3)x)^(−5)   =3^(−5) Σ_(k=0) ^∞ (−(4/3))^k C_4 ^(k+4) x^k   with increasing k, ((4/3))^k is increasing  and C_4 ^(k+4)  is aslo increasing. therefore  there is no max/min for 3^(−5) (−(4/3))^k C_4 ^(k+4) ,  it →+∞ or −∞.
(3+4x)5=35×(1+43x)5=35k=0(43)kC4k+4xkwithincreasingk,(43)kisincreasingandC4k+4isasloincreasing.thereforethereisnomax/minfor35(43)kC4k+4,it+or.
Commented by aurpeyz last updated on 18/Sep/20
i think there is more to this topic than i know
ithinkthereismoretothistopicthaniknow
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Sep/20
with that what you know you can  solve alot of questions, such as this  one. just apply!
withthatwhatyouknowyoucansolvealotofquestions,suchasthisone.justapply!
Commented by aurpeyz last updated on 18/Sep/20
thanks alot Sir
thanksalotSir
Commented by aurpeyz last updated on 18/Sep/20
when i try to find the greatest coeeficient  using Σ_(r=0) ^∞ C_r ^(5+r−1) ((4/3))^r (−1)^(r )  I arrived at a negative   value for r. I think it is a proof that there is no   greatest coefficient.
whenitrytofindthegreatestcoeeficientusingr=0Cr5+r1(43)r(1)rIarrivedatanegativevalueforr.Ithinkitisaproofthatthereisnogreatestcoefficient.
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Sep/20
no proof needed. it′s clear:  C_4 ^(4+r) ((4/3))^r  is always increasing and  (−1)^(r ) =1 for even r and −1 for odd r.  so there is neither maximum nor  minimum coefficient.
noproofneeded.itsclear:C44+r(43)risalwaysincreasingand(1)r=1forevenrand1foroddr.sothereisneithermaximumnorminimumcoefficient.
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Sep/20
it′s something like  1,−2,3,−4,5,−6,....  it has no maximum and no minimum.
itssomethinglike1,2,3,4,5,6,.ithasnomaximumandnominimum.
Commented by aurpeyz last updated on 18/Sep/20
anytime i have a question. how can i know  without proof that there is no max or min.  did you determine it by ((4/3))^r  or the nature  of the question being (3+4x)^(−5) .    i have not seen any textbook that deals with  greatest coefficient of question like that.   i thought it is because of the positive sign (+)   between the binomial.    what if we had a question with ((3/4))^x  ?
anytimeihaveaquestion.howcaniknowwithoutproofthatthereisnomaxormin.didyoudetermineitby(43)rorthenatureofthequestionbeing(3+4x)5.ihavenotseenanytextbookthatdealswithgreatestcoefficientofquestionlikethat.ithoughtitisbecauseofthepositivesign(+)betweenthebinomial.whatifwehadaquestionwith(34)x?
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Sep/20
(−1)^r C_4 ^(4+r) ((4/3))^r has no max and no min.  (−1)^r C_4 ^(4+r) ((3/4))^r  has max and min.
(1)rC44+r(43)rhasnomaxandnomin.(1)rC44+r(34)rhasmaxandmin.
Commented by aurpeyz last updated on 18/Sep/20
thank you Sir. i will attempt it
thankyouSir.iwillattemptit
Commented by aurpeyz last updated on 18/Sep/20
lets say i have (4+3x)^(−5)   (4+3x)^(−5) =4^(−5) [(−1)^r Σ_(r=0) ^∞ C_r ^(4+r) ((3/4))^r ]  (−1)^r C_r ^(4+r) ((3/4))^r ≥ (−1)^(r+1) C_(r+1) ^(5+r) ((3/4))  C_4 ^(4+r) ≥(−1)C_4 ^(5+r) ((3/4))^1   r=((−19)/7).   the negativity gives me issue.    is it that any question like (4+3x)^(−5)  [with   positive sign in between binomial of negative  powers] usually dont have max or min?
letssayihave(4+3x)5(4+3x)5=45[(1)rr=0Cr4+r(34)r](1)rCr4+r(34)r(1)r+1Cr+15+r(34)C44+r(1)C45+r(34)1r=197.thenegativitygivesmeissue.isitthatanyquestionlike(4+3x)5[withpositivesigninbetweenbinomialofnegativepowers]usuallydonthavemaxormin?
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Sep/20
to treat the positive coefficients  you should only see the even terms,  i.e. r=2k  ......
totreatthepositivecoefficientsyoushouldonlyseetheeventerms,i.e.r=2k
Commented by aurpeyz last updated on 19/Sep/20
please shed little light on this. r=2k? how  is this done?
pleaseshedlittlelightonthis.r=2k?howisthisdone?
Commented by mr W last updated on 19/Sep/20
even terms (r=2k) have positive   coefficients, odd terms (r=2k+1)  have negative coefficients. just think!
eventerms(r=2k)havepositivecoefficients,oddterms(r=2k+1)havenegativecoefficients.justthink!
Commented by aurpeyz last updated on 20/Sep/20
okay
okay

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