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Question Number 79816 by jagoll last updated on 28/Jan/20
hello mister.  i need help explaining how determine  the range of function  of rational functions  like (i) f(x)=((ax^2 +bx+c)/(px^2 +qx+r))  (ii) f(x)=((ax^2 +bx+c)/(px+q))
hellomister.ineedhelpexplaininghowdeterminetherangeoffunctionofrationalfunctionslike(i)f(x)=ax2+bx+cpx2+qx+r(ii)f(x)=ax2+bx+cpx+q
Answered by MJS last updated on 28/Jan/20
y=((ax^2 +bx+c)/(px^2 +qx+r))  leads to  x^2 +((qy−b)/(py−a))+((ry−c)/(py−a))=0  D=(((4pr−q^2 )y^2 −2(2ar−bq+2cp)y+4ac−b^2 )/(4(py−a)^2 ))  D<0 ⇒ no real solution for x ⇒ no y exists  the range then is R\[interval for y where D<0]  same when p=0 which is your (ii)
y=ax2+bx+cpx2+qx+rleadstox2+qybpya+rycpya=0D=(4prq2)y22(2arbq+2cp)y+4acb24(pya)2D<0norealsolutionforxnoyexiststherangethenisR[intervalforywhereD<0]samewhenp=0whichisyour(ii)
Commented by jagoll last updated on 28/Jan/20
if the function  y=((2x^2 −2)/(3x^2 +3x−2)) ⇒3x^2 y+3xy−2y=2x^2 −2  (3y−2).x^2 +3y.x+2−2y=0  D= 9y^2 −4.(3y−2)(2−2y)  D= 9y^2 −8(3y−2)(1−y)  D=9y^2 −8(−3y^2 +5y−2)  D=33y^2 +40y+16 >0 for ∀y∈R  R_f  = {y∣ y∈R }  that right sir?
ifthefunctiony=2x223x2+3x23x2y+3xy2y=2x22(3y2).x2+3y.x+22y=0D=9y24.(3y2)(22y)D=9y28(3y2)(1y)D=9y28(3y2+5y2)D=33y2+40y+16>0foryRRf={yyR}thatrightsir?
Commented by jagoll last updated on 28/Jan/20
range function not related to  flat asymtot sir?
rangefunctionnotrelatedtoflatasymtotsir?
Commented by jagoll last updated on 28/Jan/20
for example   y= ((2x^2 +3x−2)/(3x^2 −5x+2))  R_f  : y ≠ lim_(x→∞)  ((2x^2 +3x−2)/(3x^2 −5x+2))  R_f : y≠ (2/3) ?
forexampley=2x2+3x23x25x+2Rf:ylimx2x2+3x23x25x+2Rf:y23?
Commented by MJS last updated on 28/Jan/20
y=((2x^2 −2)/(3x^2 +3x−2))  x^2 +((3y)/(3y−2))x−((2(y−1))/(3y−2))=0       [x^2 +Px+Q=0 ⇒ D=(P^2 /4)−Q]  D=((33y^2 −40y+16)/(4(3y−2)^2 ))>0∀y∈R  ⇒ range is R
y=2x223x2+3x2x2+3y3y2x2(y1)3y2=0[x2+Px+Q=0D=P24Q]D=33y240y+164(3y2)2>0yRrangeisR
Commented by MJS last updated on 28/Jan/20
y=((2x^2 +3x−2)/(3x^2 −5x+2))  x^2 −((5y+3)/(3y−2))x+((2(y+1))/(3y−2))=0  D=((y^2 +22y+25)/(4(3y−2)^2 ))  D<0 for −11−4(√6)<y<−11+4(√6)  ⇒ range is R\]−11−4(√6); −11+4(√6)[
y=2x2+3x23x25x+2x25y+33y2x+2(y+1)3y2=0D=y2+22y+254(3y2)2D<0for1146<y<11+46rangeisR]1146;11+46[
Commented by jagoll last updated on 28/Jan/20
sir how to get in line 2? still understand
sirhowtogetinline2?stillunderstand
Commented by jagoll last updated on 28/Jan/20
3x^2 y+3xy−2y−2x^2 +2=0  (3y−2)x^2 +(3y)x+2−2y=0  x^2 +((3y)/(3y−2)) x+((2(1−y))/(3y−2))=0  that right sir?
3x2y+3xy2y2x2+2=0(3y2)x2+(3y)x+22y=0x2+3y3y2x+2(1y)3y2=0thatrightsir?
Commented by MJS last updated on 28/Jan/20
y=((2x^2 +3x−2)/(3x^2 −5x+2))  (3x^2 −5x+2)y=2x^2 +3x−2  (3y−2)x^2 −(5y+3)x+2(y+1)=0  x^2 −((5y+3)/(3y−2))x+((2(y+1))/(3y−2))=0  you′ve made mistakes in line 1    p=−((5y+3)/(3y−2)); q=((2(y+1))/(3y−2))  D=(p^2 /4)−q=((y^2 +22y+25)/(4(3y−2)^2 ))
y=2x2+3x23x25x+2(3x25x+2)y=2x2+3x2(3y2)x2(5y+3)x+2(y+1)=0x25y+33y2x+2(y+1)3y2=0youvemademistakesinline1p=5y+33y2;q=2(y+1)3y2D=p24q=y2+22y+254(3y2)2
Commented by MJS last updated on 29/Jan/20
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