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Question Number 21795 by hi147 last updated on 04/Oct/17
help  x∈N  determine x where 7 divise 2^x +3^x
helpxNdeterminexwhere7divise2x+3x
Commented by Rasheed.Sindhi last updated on 04/Oct/17
x=3,9
x=3,9
Commented by prakash jain last updated on 04/Oct/17
How did you get x=3?
Howdidyougetx=3?
Commented by math solver last updated on 05/Oct/17
  how did you get x=9
howdidyougetx=9
Answered by mrW1 last updated on 04/Oct/17
x=3^n , n∈N    prove:  for n=1,  2^3^1  +3^3^1  =8+27=35 mod 7=0  it′s true for n=1.    let′s assume it′s true for n, i.e.  2^3^n  +3^3^n   mod 7=0    for n+1:  (2^3^(n+1)  +3^3^(n+1)   ) mod 7  =(2^(3×3^n ) +3^(3×3^n )  ) mod 7  =[(2^3^n  )^3 +(3^3^n  )^3  ] mod 7  =[(2^3^n  )+(3^3^n  )][(2^3^n  )^2 −(2^3^n  )(3^3^n  )+(3^3^n  )^2 ]  mod 7  =[(2^3^n  )+(3^3^n  )] mod 7  =0    ⇒x=3^n  is a solution
x=3n,nNprove:forn=1,231+331=8+27=35mod7=0itstrueforn=1.letsassumeitstrueforn,i.e.23n+33nmod7=0forn+1:(23n+1+33n+1)mod7=(23×3n+33×3n)mod7=[(23n)3+(33n)3]mod7=[(23n)+(33n)][(23n)2(23n)(33n)+(33n)2]mod7=[(23n)+(33n)]mod7=0x=3nisasolution
Commented by hi147 last updated on 04/Oct/17
thx  but how u think in 3^(n ) exactly?   the prove is not complete...  it seems that we must not use   congruence methode because this   exercise is under the title(divisibility)  in secondary book.so we must just  use (n divise x ⇔x=kn/k∈Z)...   i wait for an other answer ...
thxbuthowuthinkin3nexactly?theproveisnotcompleteitseemsthatwemustnotusecongruencemethodebecausethisexerciseisunderthetitle(divisibility)insecondarybook.sowemustjustuse(ndivisexx=kn/kZ)iwaitforanotheranswer
Commented by hi147 last updated on 04/Oct/17
the question is from where come 3^n ?  i mean before using the demonstration  with concurrence....if we say from  imagination.it is not a prove.and as   you say.maybe we have other x.so  we still need a complet solution...thx
thequestionisfromwherecome3n?imeanbeforeusingthedemonstrationwithconcurrence.ifwesayfromimagination.itisnotaprove.andasyousay.maybewehaveotherx.sowestillneedacompletsolutionthx
Commented by mrW1 last updated on 04/Oct/17
with x=3^n  we have proved that  7 divides 2^x +3^x .  this prove is complete.    but indeed it is not proved that no  other solution than 3^n  exists.
withx=3nwehaveprovedthat7divides2x+3x.thisproveiscomplete.butindeeditisnotprovedthatnoothersolutionthan3nexists.
Commented by mrW1 last updated on 05/Oct/17
by try and error we get a solution x=3.  since a^3 +b^3 =(a+b)(a^2 −ab+b^2 ) we  know that x=3×3 is then also a  solution, and x=3×3×3 is also a  solution, etc. that means x=3^n  is  a solution.
bytryanderrorwegetasolutionx=3.sincea3+b3=(a+b)(a2ab+b2)weknowthatx=3×3isthenalsoasolution,andx=3×3×3isalsoasolution,etc.thatmeansx=3nisasolution.
Commented by mrW1 last updated on 05/Oct/17
generally 7 divides (2^3 )^(2k+1) +(3^3 )^(2k+1)   so x=3(2k+1) is a solution, k≥0.  i.e. x=3,9,15,21,27......
generally7divides(23)2k+1+(33)2k+1sox=3(2k+1)isasolution,k0.i.e.x=3,9,15,21,27
Commented by hi147 last updated on 06/Oct/17
good.but how did u get (2^3 )^(2k+1) +(3^3 )^(2k+1)   and how we can prove that 3(2k+1) is  the only solution  thx.
good.buthowdiduget(23)2k+1+(33)2k+1andhowwecanprovethat3(2k+1)istheonlysolutionthx.
Commented by mrW1 last updated on 06/Oct/17
2^(3(2k+1)) +3^(3(2k+1))   =(2^3 )^(2k+1) +(3^3 )^(2k+1) =(2^3 +3^3 )(.......)  =35×(......)  =7×5×(......)  ⇒x=3(2k+1) is a solution.    I don′t know if this is the only solution.
23(2k+1)+33(2k+1)=(23)2k+1+(33)2k+1=(23+33)(.)=35×()=7×5×()x=3(2k+1)isasolution.Idontknowifthisistheonlysolution.

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