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Question Number 179993 by mr W last updated on 05/Nov/22
How many 6 digit numbers have  different digits and are divisible by  11?  (an unsolved old question)
Howmany6digitnumbershavedifferentdigitsandaredivisibleby11?(anunsolvedoldquestion)
Commented by Acem last updated on 06/Nov/22
0 as 1st dig. not accepted
0as1stdig.notaccepted
Commented by Acem last updated on 06/Nov/22
Yes my brother, the cooperation is good, why you   don′t cooperate with us, i missed Da Vinci′s codes
Yesmybrother,thecooperationisgood,whyyoudontcooperatewithus,imissedDaVinciscodes
Commented by mr W last updated on 06/Nov/22
i reposted this unsolved old question.  if i had an idea how to solve, i would  have solved it and it wouldn′t be an  unsolved question any more.    i know there are totally 81819 6−digit   numbers which are divisible by 11.  among them 11340 numbers have   different digits.  but i have no real solution yet. i just   counted stupidly all valid numbers   from 100001 to 999999 and got the  answer 11340.
irepostedthisunsolvedoldquestion.ifihadanideahowtosolve,iwouldhavesolveditanditwouldntbeanunsolvedquestionanymore.iknowtherearetotally818196digitnumberswhicharedivisibleby11.amongthem11340numbershavedifferentdigits.butihavenorealsolutionyet.ijustcountedstupidlyallvalidnumbersfrom100001to999999andgottheanswer11340.
Commented by Acem last updated on 06/Nov/22
Friends, let′s cooperate and every one gives an   idea.  then:   ∫ideas d(disagreements)= True answer    1st idea:    ∣Σ Numb._(even places) −ΣNumb._(odd places) ∣=  { ((0     or)),((11)) :}
Friends,letscooperateandeveryonegivesanidea.then:ideasd(disagreements)=Trueanswer1stidea:ΣNumb.evenplacesΣNumb.oddplaces∣={0or11
Commented by Acem last updated on 05/Nov/22
2nd idea:  Making groups
2ndidea:Makinggroups
Commented by mr W last updated on 05/Nov/22
all ideas for a solution of the question  are welcome, no matter from whom  they come.
allideasforasolutionofthequestionarewelcome,nomatterfromwhomtheycome.
Commented by Frix last updated on 05/Nov/22
my first thought:  11∣abcdef ⇔ 11∣(10(a+c+e)+b+d+f)  s=(10(a+c+e)+b+d+f)  because a...f are digits and a≠0 ⇒  78≤s≤228  we have to find numbers abcdef with  s=11k∧8≤k≤20    ...not sure if and how this could help...
myfirstthought:11abcdef11(10(a+c+e)+b+d+f)s=(10(a+c+e)+b+d+f)becauseafaredigitsanda078s228wehavetofindnumbersabcdefwiths=11k8k20notsureifandhowthiscouldhelp
Commented by Acem last updated on 05/Nov/22
About making groups:  We have the sample space  S= {1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0}  So for example:  S_1 = {9, 8,7}_(24) , S_2 = {6, 5, 2}_(13) , S_3 = {6, 4, 3}_(13)    S_1 ∧S_2  : 3! 3! , S_1 ∧S_3 : 3! 3! NumWay_1 = 72 ways  ..... So try to think in how to make groups   include all cases
Aboutmakinggroups:WehavethesamplespaceS={1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0}Soforexample:S1={9,8,7}24,S2={6,5,2}13,S3={6,4,3}13S1S2:3!3!,S1S3:3!3!NumWay1=72ways..Sotrytothinkinhowtomakegroupsincludeallcases
Commented by Acem last updated on 06/Nov/22
Informations:  Where do the numbers_(End_ ) ^(Start)  ?      Numbers      ∈ [102 465,  987 635]     Coefficient_(11)  ∈ [9 315, 89 785]     Total : 80 471 numbers are divisible by 11   ⇒ with different digits < 80 471      Primitive imagination≈ [26 555 − 28 325]
Informations:WheredothenumbersEndStart?Numbers[102465,987635]Coefficient11[9315,89785]Total:80471numbersaredivisibleby11withdifferentdigits<80471Primitiveimagination[2655528325]
Commented by Rasheed.Sindhi last updated on 06/Nov/22
f(x)=ax^5 +bx^4 +cx^3 +dx^2 +ex+f  f(10): required number  10≡−1(mod 11)  ⇒f(10)≡f(−1)(mod 11)  11∣f(10)⇔11∣f(−1)  f(−1)=−a+b−c+d−e+f≡0(mod 11)  a+c+e≡b+d+f(mod 11)  with a,b,c,d,e,f are distinct....
f(x)=ax5+bx4+cx3+dx2+ex+ff(10):requirednumber101(mod11)f(10)f(1)(mod11)11f(10)11f(1)f(1)=a+bc+de+f0(mod11)a+c+eb+d+f(mod11)witha,b,c,d,e,faredistinct.
Commented by JDamian last updated on 06/Nov/22
numbers having 0 as first digit, are accepted?
Commented by nikif99 last updated on 06/Nov/22
a) Permutations of 10 over 6 without  repetitions P_6 ^(10) =151200, including   numbers starting with 0.   Numbers srarting with 0 are  15120 ⇒136080 numbers with diff   digits divided by any N including 11.  b) max Σ of odd placed digits is   9+8+7=24.  min Σ of even placed digits is   0+1+2=3.  max abs(Σ_(odd) −Σ_(even) )=21<2×11 ⇒  abs(Σ_(odd) −Σ_(even) )=11k, k={0,1}
a)Permutationsof10over6withoutrepetitionsP610=151200,includingnumbersstartingwith0.Numberssrartingwith0are15120136080numberswithdiffdigitsdividedbyanyNincluding11.b)maxΣofoddplaceddigitsis9+8+7=24.minΣofevenplaceddigitsis0+1+2=3.maxabs(oddeven)=21<2×11abs(oddeven)=11k,k={0,1}
Commented by Acem last updated on 06/Nov/22
Yes bro , till now we didn′t know 11′s behavior,    you remember the question 6 dig. divsib. by 8   it has two periodic behavior at odd hundred digits  and even one, through them we sniped it.    But here all what i could to do is   downsizing the operations such as determine   the domain      Numbers      ∈ [102 465,  987 635]    Then i fixed two digits 98a bcd    and from S={0,1,2,3,4,5,6} formed pairs as   (0,1) ∧(6,7).....   (0,4)∧(2,3) ....    (1,5)∧(0,7) & (3,4)... etc   and i got 132 numbers (7 min of work)    2nd step 97abcd ....then 90abcd..... then 89abcd..etc   sure, i didn′t continue (:    But i believe that the 11 has some behaviour      Thank you, and thanks for every one has tried
Yesbro,tillnowwedidntknow11sbehavior,yourememberthequestion6dig.divsib.by8ithastwoperiodicbehavioratoddhundreddigitsandevenone,throughthemwesnipedit.ButhereallwhaticouldtodoisdownsizingtheoperationssuchasdeterminethedomainNumbers[102465,987635]Thenifixedtwodigits98abcdandfromS={0,1,2,3,4,5,6}formedpairsas(0,1)(6,7)..(0,4)(2,3).(1,5)(0,7)&(3,4)etcandigot132numbers(7minofwork)2ndstep97abcd.then90abcd..then89abcd..etcsure,ididntcontinue(:Butibelievethatthe11hassomebehaviourThankyou,andthanksforeveryonehastried

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