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Question Number 99603 by bemath last updated on 22/Jun/20
How many terms in the geometric  progression 1, 1.1, 1.21,1.331,...  will be needed so that the sum of  the first n terms is greather than 20?
$$\mathrm{How}\:\mathrm{many}\:\mathrm{terms}\:\mathrm{in}\:\mathrm{the}\:\mathrm{geometric} \\ $$$$\mathrm{progression}\:\mathrm{1},\:\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1},\:\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{21},\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{331},… \\ $$$$\mathrm{will}\:\mathrm{be}\:\mathrm{needed}\:\mathrm{so}\:\mathrm{that}\:\mathrm{the}\:\mathrm{sum}\:\mathrm{of} \\ $$$$\mathrm{the}\:\mathrm{first}\:{n}\:\mathrm{terms}\:\mathrm{is}\:\mathrm{greather}\:\mathrm{than}\:\mathrm{20}? \\ $$
Commented by john santu last updated on 22/Jun/20
The sequence is a geometric progression  with  { ((a=1)),((r=1.1)) :}  we want to find the smallest value of  n such that S_n  > 20  ⇒S_n  = ((a(1−r^n ))/(1−r)) = ((1.(1−(1.1)^n )/(1−1.1)) > 20  ((1−(1.1)^n )/(−0.1)) > 20 ; (1.1)^n −1 > 2  (1.1)^n  > 3 ; n > ((ln 3)/(ln 1.1)) ; n > 11.526  and therefore the smallest number   value of n is 12 ■
$$\mathrm{The}\:\mathrm{sequence}\:\mathrm{is}\:\mathrm{a}\:\mathrm{geometric}\:\mathrm{progression} \\ $$$$\mathrm{with}\:\begin{cases}{{a}=\mathrm{1}}\\{{r}=\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}}\end{cases} \\ $$$$\mathrm{we}\:\mathrm{want}\:\mathrm{to}\:\mathrm{find}\:\mathrm{the}\:\mathrm{smallest}\:\mathrm{value}\:\mathrm{of} \\ $$$${n}\:\mathrm{such}\:\mathrm{that}\:{S}_{{n}} \:>\:\mathrm{20} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow\mathrm{S}_{{n}} \:=\:\frac{{a}\left(\mathrm{1}−{r}^{{n}} \right)}{\mathrm{1}−{r}}\:=\:\frac{\mathrm{1}.\left(\mathrm{1}−\left(\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}\right)^{{n}} \right.}{\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}}\:>\:\mathrm{20} \\ $$$$\frac{\mathrm{1}−\left(\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}\right)^{{n}} }{−\mathrm{0}.\mathrm{1}}\:>\:\mathrm{20}\:;\:\left(\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}\right)^{{n}} −\mathrm{1}\:>\:\mathrm{2} \\ $$$$\left(\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}\right)^{{n}} \:>\:\mathrm{3}\:;\:\mathrm{n}\:>\:\frac{\mathrm{ln}\:\mathrm{3}}{\mathrm{ln}\:\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}}\:;\:{n}\:>\:\mathrm{11}.\mathrm{526} \\ $$$$\mathrm{and}\:\mathrm{therefore}\:\mathrm{the}\:\mathrm{smallest}\:\mathrm{number}\: \\ $$$$\mathrm{value}\:\mathrm{of}\:{n}\:\mathrm{is}\:\mathrm{12}\:\blacksquare\: \\ $$
Commented by bemath last updated on 22/Jun/20
thank you both
$$\mathrm{thank}\:\mathrm{you}\:\mathrm{both} \\ $$
Answered by Rio Michael last updated on 22/Jun/20
S_n  = ((a(r^n −1))/(r−1))  S_n  = (((1.1)^n −1)/(1.1−1)) = (((1.1)^n −1)/(0.1))  for S_n  > 20, ⇒ (((1.1)^n −1)/(0.1)) > 20 ⇒ (1.1)^n  > 3  n log (1.1) > log 3  ⇒ n > 11.52 , but n ∈ Z ⇒  n = 12.
$${S}_{{n}} \:=\:\frac{{a}\left({r}^{{n}} −\mathrm{1}\right)}{{r}−\mathrm{1}} \\ $$$${S}_{{n}} \:=\:\frac{\left(\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}\right)^{{n}} −\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{1}}\:=\:\frac{\left(\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}\right)^{{n}} −\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{0}.\mathrm{1}} \\ $$$$\mathrm{for}\:{S}_{{n}} \:>\:\mathrm{20},\:\Rightarrow\:\frac{\left(\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}\right)^{{n}} −\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{0}.\mathrm{1}}\:>\:\mathrm{20}\:\Rightarrow\:\left(\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}\right)^{{n}} \:>\:\mathrm{3} \\ $$$${n}\:\mathrm{log}\:\left(\mathrm{1}.\mathrm{1}\right)\:>\:\mathrm{log}\:\mathrm{3} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow\:{n}\:>\:\mathrm{11}.\mathrm{52}\:,\:\mathrm{but}\:{n}\:\in\:\mathbb{Z}\:\Rightarrow\:\:{n}\:=\:\mathrm{12}. \\ $$

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