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Question Number 90881 by  M±th+et+s last updated on 26/Apr/20
if the value of x is in degrees what is  the derivative of   f(x)=sin(x)
ifthevalueofxisindegreeswhatisthederivativeoff(x)=sin(x)
Commented by mr W last updated on 28/Apr/20
we have different understanding:  if x is in rad, the slope (dy/dx) is in unit  [1/rad]. but if x is in degree, the  slope is in unit [1/degree]. both slopes  must not equal in value, but equal in  the physical sense.  when we describe the motion of a car  with y=f(t)=sin(t) where t is in second,  the slope (dy/dt) which is the speed in unit  [m/s]. but if t is in mile, the slope (dy/dt)  is also the speed, just in an other  unit [m/mile]. both are of different  values, but mean the same physical  sense. t in f(t) can be in second or mile,  x in sin(x) can be in rad or degree,  which doen′t affect how we calculate  (dy/dt) or (dy/dx). this is my understanding,  maybe correct or maybe not.
wehavedifferentunderstanding:ifxisinrad,theslopedydxisinunit[1/rad].butifxisindegree,theslopeisinunit[1/degree].bothslopesmustnotequalinvalue,butequalinthephysicalsense.whenwedescribethemotionofacarwithy=f(t)=sin(t)wheretisinsecond,theslopedydtwhichisthespeedinunit[m/s].butiftisinmile,theslopedydtisalsothespeed,justinanotherunit[m/mile].bothareofdifferentvalues,butmeanthesamephysicalsense.tinf(t)canbeinsecondormile,xinsin(x)canbeinradordegree,whichdoentaffecthowwecalculatedydtordydx.thisismyunderstanding,maybecorrectormaybenot.
Commented by mr W last updated on 26/Apr/20
(dy/dx)=cos (x) no matter if x is in rad or  in degree.  this is the same as if s=f(t),  v=(ds/dt)=f′(t), no matter if t is in hour  or second.
dydx=cos(x)nomatterifxisinradorindegree.thisisthesameasifs=f(t),v=dsdt=f(t),nomatteriftisinhourorsecond.
Commented by  M±th+et+s last updated on 26/Apr/20
thank you sir for explain that
thankyousirforexplainthat
Commented by MJS last updated on 26/Apr/20
Sir, this obviuosly is wrong  the derivate is the slope of the tangent  (d/dx)[sin x^(rad) ]=cos x^(rad)   but the slope of sin x° is not as steep  (d/dx)[sin x°]=(π/(180))sin x°  generally if f(x°) is any trigonometric  function  (d/dx)[f(x°)]=(π/(180))f′(x°)
Sir,thisobviuoslyiswrongthederivateistheslopeofthetangentddx[sinxrad]=cosxradbuttheslopeofsinx°isnotassteepddx[sinx°]=π180sinx°generallyiff(x°)isanytrigonometricfunctionddx[f(x°)]=π180f(x°)
Commented by mr W last updated on 26/Apr/20
if x in f(x) is in degree, then the x in   dx is also in degree.    say f(x)=sin (x) with x in degree.  t=((xπ)/(180)) ⇒x=((180t)/π)  ((d(sin x))/dx)=((d(sin ((180t)/π)))/(((180)/π)dt))=(((cos ((180t)/π))((180)/π))/((180)/π))=cos ((180t)/π)=cos x  i think in (dy/dx) we see only function, i.e.  the math. relationship between y and x,  we don′t care about the unit of y and x.
ifxinf(x)isindegree,thenthexindxisalsoindegree.sayf(x)=sin(x)withxindegree.t=xπ180x=180tπd(sinx)dx=d(sin180tπ)180πdt=(cos180tπ)180π180π=cos180tπ=cosxithinkindydxweseeonlyfunction,i.e.themath.relationshipbetweenyandx,wedontcareabouttheunitofyandx.
Commented by MJS last updated on 26/Apr/20
I don′t think this is true. we plot the function  in our coordinate system. if the angle is  measured in radiants, the slope of sin x at  x=0 is 1. but if the angle is measured in  degree the slope cannot be 1 because  now the lim_(h→0)  ((sin (0+h) −sin (0−h))/(2h)) =(π/(180))  ⇒ we need a function with f(0)=(π/(180))
Idontthinkthisistrue.weplotthefunctioninourcoordinatesystem.iftheangleismeasuredinradiants,theslopeofsinxatx=0is1.butiftheangleismeasuredindegreetheslopecannotbe1becausenowthelimh0sin(0+h)sin(0h)2h=π180weneedafunctionwithf(0)=π180
Answered by TANMAY PANACEA. last updated on 26/Apr/20
x degree=(π/(180))x radian  y=sin((π/(180))x)  (dy/dx)=cos((π/(180))x)×(π/(180))
xdegree=π180xradiany=sin(π180x)dydx=cos(π180x)×π180
Commented by  M±th+et+s last updated on 26/Apr/20
thank you sir but i have a question  why  sin((π/(180))x)=sin(x)   but (π/(180))cos((π/(180))x)=cos(x)  because we know (d/dx)sin(x)=cos(x)
thankyousirbutihaveaquestionwhysin(π180x)=sin(x)butπ180cos(π180x)=cos(x)becauseweknowddxsin(x)=cos(x)
Answered by  M±th+et+s last updated on 27/Apr/20
y=sin(x)       y=sin((π/(180))x)  (π/(180))x=u          y=sinu  (dy/dx)=cos(u)     (dy/dx)=cos((π/(180))x)
y=sin(x)y=sin(π180x)π180x=uy=sinudydx=cos(u)dydx=cos(π180x)
Commented by  M±th+et+s last updated on 27/Apr/20
(dy/dx)sin(x)=cos(x)  x rad=(π/(180))x deg  cos(x)=cos((π/(180))x)  so (dy/dx)sin((π/(180))x)=cos((π/(180))x)
dydxsin(x)=cos(x)xrad=π180xdegcos(x)=cos(π180x)sodydxsin(π180x)=cos(π180x)

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