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Question Number 28241 by ajfour last updated on 22/Jan/18
Commented by ajfour last updated on 22/Jan/18
Q. 28185   (alternate solution )
Q.28185(alternatesolution)
Answered by ajfour last updated on 22/Jan/18
x^2 +y^2 −6x+6y−16=0  ⇒   (x−3)^2 +(y+3)^2 =34  slope of MN is m=4  x_M =3+(√(34))×(1/( (√(17)))) =3+(√2)  y_M =−3+(√(34))×(4/( (√(17)))) =−3+4(√2)  For point A we solve y=x with  eq. of AM  and so x_A =y_A =α is  α−4(√2)+3=−(α−3−(√2))  ⇒  α=(5/( (√2)))  ; hence A((5/( (√2))),(5/( (√2))))  x_N =3−(√(34))×(1/( (√(17))))=3−(√2)  y_N =−3−(√(34))×(4/( (√(34))))=−3−4(√2)  x_B =y_B =β which we get by  solving y=x  with eq. of BN:    β+3+4(√2)=−(β−3+(√2))  ⇒  β=−(5/( (√2))) ;  hence B(−(5/( (√2))), (5/( (√2))))  center of ellipse is midpoint of  segment AB , so  (0,0) .  and semi major axis length =5  let us take along AB(y=x) our x axis  and y=−x as new y axis   (both downwards +ve)  then eq. of ellipse is  (x^2 /a^2 )+(y^2 /b^2 )=1  , with a=5  slope of  y=4x−15 will become  m=((4−tan π/4)/(1+4tan π/4)) =(3/5)  point (5,5) will become (−5(√2),0)  thus eq. y=4x−15 changes to  y=(3/5)x+5(√2)  as this is to be tangent to ellipse  c^2 =a^2 m^2 +b^2   ⇒  (5(√2))^2 =(25)((3/5))^2 +b^2   b^2 =9  e^2 =1−(b^2 /a^2 ) =1−(9/(25))   e=(4/5)  length of latus rectum     l=((2b^2 )/a) =((2×9)/5) =((18)/5)  with (a/e)=(5/(4/5))=((25)/4)  eq. of directrices pass through  (((25)/(4(√2))), ((25)/(4(√2)))) and (((−25)/(4(√2))), ((−25)/(4(√2))))  and are perpendicular to y=x  So, eqs. are  y−((25)/(4(√2)))=−(x−((25)/(4(√2))))  ⇒   x+y=±((25)/(2(√2))) .
x2+y26x+6y16=0(x3)2+(y+3)2=34slopeofMNism=4xM=3+34×117=3+2yM=3+34×417=3+42ForpointAwesolvey=xwitheq.ofAMandsoxA=yA=αisα42+3=(α32)α=52;henceA(52,52)xN=334×117=32yN=334×434=342xB=yB=βwhichwegetbysolvingy=xwitheq.ofBN:β+3+42=(β3+2)β=52;henceB(52,52)centerofellipseismidpointofsegmentAB,so(0,0).andsemimajoraxislength=5letustakealongAB(y=x)ourxaxisandy=xasnewyaxis(bothdownwards+ve)theneq.ofellipseisx2a2+y2b2=1,witha=5slopeofy=4x15willbecomem=4tanπ/41+4tanπ/4=35point(5,5)willbecome(52,0)thuseq.y=4x15changestoy=35x+52asthisistobetangenttoellipsec2=a2m2+b2(52)2=(25)(35)2+b2b2=9e2=1b2a2=1925e=45lengthoflatusrectuml=2b2a=2×95=185withae=54/5=254eq.ofdirectricespassthrough(2542,2542)and(2542,2542)andareperpendiculartoy=xSo,eqs.arey2542=(x2542)x+y=±2522.
Commented by ajfour last updated on 22/Jan/18
MN is tangent to this ellipse  and this is given in question, we  cannot amend that.  from this condition we will  rather find b or hence the  eccenticity.
MNistangenttothisellipseandthisisgiveninquestion,wecannotamendthat.fromthisconditionwewillratherfindborhencetheeccenticity.
Commented by mrW2 last updated on 22/Jan/18
I assumed that the tangents from M  and N should at ends of both axes of  the ellipse. This is much more  complicated than what is asked.  I had to read the question more  carefully.
IassumedthatthetangentsfromMandNshouldatendsofbothaxesoftheellipse.Thisismuchmorecomplicatedthanwhatisasked.Ihadtoreadthequestionmorecarefully.
Commented by ajfour last updated on 22/Jan/18
must be , let me see if i can  follow along that interpretation..
mustbe,letmeseeificanfollowalongthatinterpretation..
Commented by mrW2 last updated on 23/Jan/18
Is there an easy way to get  c^2 =a^2 m^2 +b^2  ?  I know this is true. But I can derive  it only through a lengthy way:  (...)x^2 +(...)x+(...)=0  Δ=(...)^2 −4(...)(...)=0  ⇒c^2 =a^2 m^2 +b^2
Isthereaneasywaytogetc2=a2m2+b2?Iknowthisistrue.ButIcanderiveitonlythroughalengthyway:()x2+()x+()=0Δ=()24()()=0c2=a2m2+b2
Commented by mrW2 last updated on 23/Jan/18
I got following:  rotated with angle −(π/4) eq. y=4x−15 changes to  ((x+y)/( (√2)))=((4(x−y))/( (√2)))−15  ⇒5y=3x−15(√2)  ⇒y=(3/5)x−3(√2)   (but you got y=(3/5)x+5(√2))  (−3(√2))^2 =((3/5)×5)^2 +b^2   ⇒b^2 =9 (you got also b^2 =9)
Igotfollowing:rotatedwithangleπ4eq.y=4x15changestox+y2=4(xy)2155y=3x152y=35x32(butyougoty=35x+52)(32)2=(35×5)2+b2b2=9(yougotalsob2=9)

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