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Question Number 154677 by mathdanisur last updated on 20/Sep/21
Solve for real numbers:  ((x^9  - 256x^3  - 791)/(84x^3 )) = ((4x + 7))^(1/3)
Solveforrealnumbers:x9256x379184x3=4x+73
Commented by MJS_new last updated on 20/Sep/21
((x^9 −256x−791)/(84x^3 ))=((4x+7))^(1/3)   we can solve it...  let x=((4x+7))^(1/3)  ⇒ x^3 −4x−7=0 (1)  ⇒  ((x^9 −256x−791)/(84x^3 ))=x  ⇔  x^9 −84x^4 −256x−791=0 (2)  (x^3 −4x−7)(x^6 +4x^4 +7x^3 +16x^2 −28x+113)=0  ⇒  the solutions of (1) also solve (2)  x∈R ⇒ x=(((7/2)−((√(3201))/(18))))^(1/3) +(((7/2)+((√(3201))/(18))))^(1/3)
x9256x79184x3=4x+73wecansolveitletx=4x+73x34x7=0(1)x9256x79184x3=xx984x4256x791=0(2)(x34x7)(x6+4x4+7x3+16x228x+113)=0thesolutionsof(1)alsosolve(2)xRx=723201183+72+3201183
Commented by mathdanisur last updated on 20/Sep/21
There was a typo. Thank you for your attention Ser.  The correct is ...256x, not 256x^3 .  Sorry for my mistake Ser.
Therewasatypo.ThankyouforyourattentionSer.Thecorrectis256x,not256x3.SorryformymistakeSer.
Commented by MJS_new last updated on 20/Sep/21
only approximation is possible  I get  x_1 ≈−2.05382774  x_2 ≈−1.30927779  x_3 ≈2.82876252
onlyapproximationispossibleIgetx12.05382774x21.30927779x32.82876252
Commented by mathdanisur last updated on 20/Sep/21
creativ solution, thank you Ser
creativsolution,thankyouSer
Commented by mr W last updated on 20/Sep/21
it′s each time a wonder to me how  you get  (x^3 −4x−7)(x^6 +4x^4 +7x^3 +16x^2 −28x+113)=0  from  x^9 −84x^4 −256x−791=0.  great!
itseachtimeawondertomehowyouget(x34x7)(x6+4x4+7x3+16x228x+113)=0fromx984x4256x791=0.great!
Commented by mathdanisur last updated on 20/Sep/21
Thank you so much Ser
ThankyousomuchSer
Commented by MJS_new last updated on 20/Sep/21
this time I first plotted both sides of the  given equation and it looked as if the only  solution was on the line y=x. then I tried to  verify this and it was easy to divide   (x^9 −84x^4 −256x−791)/(x^3 −4x−7)  I see no chance to get the exact result  without this very lucky coincidence...
thistimeIfirstplottedbothsidesofthegivenequationanditlookedasiftheonlysolutionwasontheliney=x.thenItriedtoverifythisanditwaseasytodivide(x984x4256x791)/(x34x7)Iseenochancetogettheexactresultwithoutthisveryluckycoincidence
Commented by MJS_new last updated on 21/Sep/21
we can build similar questions this way:  ((x^9 −a^4 x−(a^3 +b^2 )b)/(3abx^3 ))=((ax+b))^(1/3)   it′s more a magic trick than serious math  let ((ax+b))^(1/3) =x ⇔ x^3 −ax−b=0 (1)  ⇒  ((x^9 −a^4 x−(a^3 +b^2 )b)/(3abx^3 ))=x  x^9 −4abx^4 −a^4 x−(a^3 +b^2 )b=0 (2)  (x^3 −ax−b)(x^6 +ax^4 +bx^3 +a^2 x^2 −abx+a^3 +b^2 )=0  obviously the real solution(s) of (1) also  solve (2).
wecanbuildsimilarquestionsthisway:x9a4x(a3+b2)b3abx3=ax+b3itsmoreamagictrickthanseriousmathletax+b3=xx3axb=0(1)x9a4x(a3+b2)b3abx3=xx94abx4a4x(a3+b2)b=0(2)(x3axb)(x6+ax4+bx3+a2x2abx+a3+b2)=0obviouslytherealsolution(s)of(1)alsosolve(2).
Commented by MJS_new last updated on 21/Sep/21
question 154303 works exactly the same way
question154303worksexactlythesameway
Commented by mathdanisur last updated on 21/Sep/21
Very nice Ser, thank you
VeryniceSer,thankyou
Answered by imjagoll last updated on 21/Sep/21

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