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Question Number 20891 by Tinkutara last updated on 06/Sep/17
The Figure shows a system consisting  of (i) a ring of outer radius 3R rolling  clockwise without slipping on a  horizontal surface with angular speed  ω and (ii) an inner disc of radius 2R  rotating anti-clockwise with angular  speed ω/2. The ring and disc are  separated by frictionless ball bearing.  The system is in the x-z plane. The  point P on the inner disc is at a distance  R from the origin, where OP makes an  angle 30° with the horizontal. Then  with respect to the horizontal surface  (a) The point O has a linear velocity  3Rωi^∧   (b) The point P has a linear velocity  ((11)/4)Rωi^∧  + ((√3)/4)Rωk^∧
TheFigureshowsasystemconsistingof(i)aringofouterradius3Rrollingclockwisewithoutslippingonahorizontalsurfacewithangularspeedωand(ii)aninnerdiscofradius2Rrotatinganticlockwisewithangularspeedω/2.Theringanddiscareseparatedbyfrictionlessballbearing.Thesystemisinthexzplane.ThepointPontheinnerdiscisatadistanceRfromtheorigin,whereOPmakesanangle30°withthehorizontal.Thenwithrespecttothehorizontalsurface(a)ThepointOhasalinearvelocity3Rωi(b)ThepointPhasalinearvelocity114Rωi+34Rωk
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 06/Sep/17
Commented by ajfour last updated on 06/Sep/17
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 06/Sep/17
But since radius at O is 0, so linear  velocity = rω = 0(ω) = 0? Why not?
ButsinceradiusatOis0,solinearvelocity=rω=0(ω)=0?Whynot?
Commented by ajfour last updated on 06/Sep/17
let velocity of point O be v_0 .  as the bottommost point does not  slip  its velocity= v_0 −ω(3R)=0         ⇒  v_0 ^→ =3ωRi^�    velocity of point P be v_P ; then    v_P ^→ =v_0 ^→ +((ωR)/2)(−sin 30°i^� +cos 30°k^� )         =(3ωR−((ωR)/4))i^� +((ωR)/2)×((√3)/2)k^�         =((11ωR)/4)i^� +((ωR(√3))/4)k^�  .  both are true.
letvelocityofpointObev0.asthebottommostpointdoesnotslipitsvelocity=v0ω(3R)=0v0=3ωRi^velocityofpointPbevP;thenvP=v0+ωR2(sin30°i^+cos30°k^)=(3ωRωR4)i^+ωR2×32k^=11ωR4i^+ωR34k^.botharetrue.
Commented by ajfour last updated on 06/Sep/17
that?would be the case if you  hang the wheel in air, like a pulley.
that?wouldbethecaseifyouhangthewheelinair,likeapulley.
Commented by ajfour last updated on 06/Sep/17
rolling is rotating plus sliding..
rollingisrotatingplussliding..
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 06/Sep/17
Then why v_O  ≠ (2R)((ω/2)) = Rω? Why  outer radius is taken only?
ThenwhyvO(2R)(ω2)=Rω?Whyouterradiusistakenonly?
Commented by ajfour last updated on 06/Sep/17
owing to rotation the speed is  zero, but due to translation it is  3ωR.
owingtorotationthespeediszero,butduetotranslationitis3ωR.
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 06/Sep/17
Thank you very much Sir!
ThankyouverymuchSir!
Commented by ajfour last updated on 06/Sep/17
only the outer radius is used for  v_O  because it is the outer ring   which is in contact with ground.  so we have a relation only of the  angular velocity of ring and  linear velocity of its center.  v_O =3ωR.  The disc cam have any  angular velocity (here ω/2) ..
onlytheouterradiusisusedforvObecauseitistheouterringwhichisincontactwithground.sowehavearelationonlyoftheangularvelocityofringandlinearvelocityofitscenter.vO=3ωR.Thedisccamhaveanyangularvelocity(hereω/2)..
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 06/Sep/17
Thanks. Now I understand.
Thanks.NowIunderstand.

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