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Question Number 23707 by Tinkutara last updated on 04/Nov/17
Two blocks A and B of mass 1 kg and  2 kg respectively are connected by a  string, passing over a light frictionless  pulley. Both the blocks are resting on a  horizontal floor and the pulley is held  such that string remains just taut. At  time t = 0, a force F = 20t N, starts  acting on the pulley along vertically  upward direction. Calculate vertical  displacement of the pulley upto the  instant when B loses contact with the  floor.
TwoblocksAandBofmass1kgand2kgrespectivelyareconnectedbyastring,passingoveralightfrictionlesspulley.Boththeblocksarerestingonahorizontalfloorandthepulleyisheldsuchthatstringremainsjusttaut.Attimet=0,aforceF=20tN,startsactingonthepulleyalongverticallyupwarddirection.CalculateverticaldisplacementofthepulleyuptotheinstantwhenBlosescontactwiththefloor.
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 04/Nov/17
Commented by mrW1 last updated on 05/Nov/17
I will try.    Force in string is T.  T=(F/2)=((20t)/2)=10t  a_A =((T−m_A g)/m_A )=((10t−m_A g)/m_A )=((10t−10)/1)=10(t−1)  a_B =((T−m_B g)/m_B )=((10t−m_B g)/m_B )=((10t−20)/2)=5(t−2)  we see when t≥1 mass A is off ground  and when t≥2 mass B is off ground.    s_P =displacement of pulley  v_P =velocity of pulley  a_P =acceleration of pulley  generally a_P =((a_A +a_B )/2)    Phase (1): 0≤t≤1  both blocks are on ground, no motion.  a_P =0, v_P =0, s_P =0.    Phase (2): 1≤t≤2  block A is off ground with a_A =10(t−1).  block B is still on ground a_B =0.  a_P =((10(t−1))/2)=5(t−1)  ⇒(dv_P /dt)=5(t−1)  ∫_0 ^( v_P ) dv_P =5∫_1 ^t (t−1)dt  v_P =(5/2)×[(t−1)^2 ]_1 ^t =((5(t−1)^2 )/2)  ⇒(ds_P /dt)=((5(t−1)^2 )/2)  ∫_0 ^( s_P ) ds_P =(5/2)∫_1 ^( t) (t−1)^2 dt  s_P =(5/6)[(t−1)^3 ]_1 ^t =((5(t−1)^3 )/6)    at t=2  v_P (2)=(5/2)(2−1)^2 =(5/2) m/s  s_P (2)=(5/6)(2−1)^3 =(5/6) m  i.e. as the block B takes off from ground  the pulley has a displacement of (5/6) m.    Phase (3): 2≤t  both blocks are off ground.  a_P =((10(t−1)+5(t−1))/2)=((15(t−1))/2)  (dv_P /dt)=((15)/2)(t−1)  ∫_(5/2) ^( v_P ) dv_P =((15)/2)∫_2 ^( t) (t−1)dt  v_p −(5/2)=((15)/4)[(t−1)^2 −1]  ⇒v_P =(5/4)[3(t−1)^2 −1]  (ds_P /dt)=(5/4)[3(t−1)^2 −1]  ∫_(6/5) ^s_P  ds_P =(5/4)∫_2 ^( t) [3(t−1)^2 −1]dt  s_P −(5/6)=(5/4)[(t−1)^3 −1]−(5/4)(t−2)  s_P =(5/4)t(t−1)(t−2)+(5/6)
Iwilltry.ForceinstringisT.T=F2=20t2=10taA=TmAgmA=10tmAgmA=10t101=10(t1)aB=TmBgmB=10tmBgmB=10t202=5(t2)weseewhent1massAisoffgroundandwhent2massBisoffground.sP=displacementofpulleyvP=velocityofpulleyaP=accelerationofpulleygenerallyaP=aA+aB2Phase(1):0t1bothblocksareonground,nomotion.aP=0,vP=0,sP=0.Phase(2):1t2blockAisoffgroundwithaA=10(t1).blockBisstillongroundaB=0.aP=10(t1)2=5(t1)dvPdt=5(t1)0vPdvP=51t(t1)dtvP=52×[(t1)2]1t=5(t1)22dsPdt=5(t1)220sPdsP=521t(t1)2dtsP=56[(t1)3]1t=5(t1)36att=2vP(2)=52(21)2=52m/ssP(2)=56(21)3=56mi.e.astheblockBtakesofffromgroundthepulleyhasadisplacementof56m.Phase(3):2tbothblocksareoffground.aP=10(t1)+5(t1)2=15(t1)2dvPdt=152(t1)52vPdvP=1522t(t1)dtvp52=154[(t1)21]vP=54[3(t1)21]dsPdt=54[3(t1)21]65sPdsP=542t[3(t1)21]dtsP56=54[(t1)31]54(t2)sP=54t(t1)(t2)+56
Commented by mrW1 last updated on 05/Nov/17
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 09/Nov/17
Thank you very much Sir!
ThankyouverymuchSir!
Answered by ajfour last updated on 04/Nov/17
let acc. of pulley be A,  acc. of 1kg block is then  2A  tension in string =(1/2)(20t) =10t  motion starts when T=10t≥ mg  that is at t=1s  when 2kg block gets lifted, 10t=Mg  ⇒  t=2s  displacement of pulley =∫_1 ^(  2) vdt  v(t)=∫_1 ^(  t) Adt       applying F=ma on 1kg block,    T−mg=ma  or    10t−g=2A  ⇒    A=((10t−g)/2)  velocity of pulley  v(t)=∫_1 ^(  t) (((10t−g)/2))dt  v=(((10t−g)^2 )/(40))   ,  So     displacement  s =∫_1 ^(  2)  (((10t−g)^2 )/(40))dt       s = (((10t−g)^3 )/(1200)) ∣_1 ^( 2)     if  g=10m/s^2   then  s=(5/6) m .
letacc.ofpulleybeA,acc.of1kgblockisthen2Atensioninstring=12(20t)=10tmotionstartswhenT=10tmgthatisatt=1swhen2kgblockgetslifted,10t=Mgt=2sdisplacementofpulley=12vdtv(t)=1tAdtapplyingF=maon1kgblock,Tmg=maor10tg=2AA=10tg2velocityofpulleyv(t)=1t(10tg2)dtv=(10tg)240,Sodisplacements=12(10tg)240dts=(10tg)3120012ifg=10m/s2thens=56m.
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 04/Nov/17
Why displacement is not ∫_0 ^2 vdt? And  why we take v(t) of block A only?
Whydisplacementisnot20vdt?Andwhywetakev(t)ofblockAonly?
Commented by ajfour last updated on 04/Nov/17
until Tensin T=(1/2)(20t) <mg   pulley doen′t move, (till t=1s).  v(t) =∫_1 ^(  t) Adt is velocity of pulley  at any time t. velocity of block is  =2v =∫_1 ^(  t) 2Adt .  to find displacement of pulley  we need to integrate v(t) of  pulley from t=1s to t=2s .
untilTensinT=12(20t)<mgpulleydoentmove,(tillt=1s).v(t)=1tAdtisvelocityofpulleyatanytimet.velocityofblockis=2v=1t2Adt.tofinddisplacementofpulleyweneedtointegratev(t)ofpulleyfromt=1stot=2s.
Commented by mrW1 last updated on 09/Nov/17
At the moment the force begins to  apply its value is zero. It needs 1   second time to reach the value 20 N  and the block A begins to move. That  means in the first second in which  the force applies there is no movement  of the pulley: v=0 for t=0 to 1.  s(t)=∫_0 ^( t) vdt=∫_0 ^1 vdt+∫_1 ^t vdt=0+∫_1 ^t vdt=∫_1 ^t vdt
Atthemomenttheforcebeginstoapplyitsvalueiszero.Itneeds1secondtimetoreachthevalue20NandtheblockAbeginstomove.Thatmeansinthefirstsecondinwhichtheforceappliesthereisnomovementofthepulley:v=0fort=0to1.s(t)=0tvdt=01vdt+1tvdt=0+1tvdt=1tvdt
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 09/Nov/17
Thank you very much Sir!  The pulley moves only when either of  the two blocks lifts up? Why not from  the moment when force is applied on it?
ThankyouverymuchSir!Thepulleymovesonlywheneitherofthetwoblocksliftsup?Whynotfromthemomentwhenforceisappliedonit?
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 09/Nov/17
Before 1 second, say 0.5 second, force  applied is 10 N on the pulley and it is  continuously increasing. So why  pulley does not move with this force?
Before1second,say0.5second,forceappliedis10Nonthepulleyanditiscontinuouslyincreasing.Sowhypulleydoesnotmovewiththisforce?
Commented by mrW1 last updated on 09/Nov/17
In the first second the force F doen′t  make movement but only reduce the  the contact force N between the block A  and the floor:  N=m_A g−F  The block A will be lifted when N=0.
InthefirstsecondtheforceFdoentmakemovementbutonlyreducethethecontactforceNbetweentheblockAandthefloor:N=mAgFTheblockAwillbeliftedwhenN=0.
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 09/Nov/17
OK. But when block 1 is lifted at 1 s  block 2 is not lifted. So why the pulley  still moves without lifting of block 2?
OK.Butwhenblock1isliftedat1sblock2isnotlifted.Sowhythepulleystillmoveswithoutliftingofblock2?
Commented by mrW1 last updated on 09/Nov/17
Since F must be 40 N to lift the block  B. So in the time t=1 to 2 only block  A moves. When block A moves, the  pulley moves also.
SinceFmustbe40NtolifttheblockB.Sointhetimet=1to2onlyblockAmoves.WhenblockAmoves,thepulleymovesalso.
Commented by Tinkutara last updated on 09/Nov/17
Thank you very much Sir!  All doubts cleared.
ThankyouverymuchSir!Alldoubtscleared.

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