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Question Number 192793 by York12 last updated on 27/May/23
x^4 +x^3 +x^2 +x+1=y^2  where y is positive integer number  then find the positive integal values of (x)  for which that holds
x4+x3+x2+x+1=y2whereyispositiveintegernumberthenfindthepositiveintegalvaluesof(x)forwhichthatholds
Answered by AST last updated on 27/May/23
4(x^4 +x^3 +x^2 +x+1)=(2y)^2   (2x^2 +x)^2 <(2y)^2 =4y^2 <(2x^2 +x+1)^2  when x>3  ⇒4y^2  cannot be a perfect square when x>3  This implies y^2  cannot also be  So,we check x≤3  ⇒(x,y)=(3,11)
4(x4+x3+x2+x+1)=(2y)2(2x2+x)2<(2y)2=4y2<(2x2+x+1)2whenx>34y2cannotbeaperfectsquarewhenx>3Thisimpliesy2cannotalsobeSo,wecheckx3(x,y)=(3,11)
Commented by York12 last updated on 27/May/23
(x^2 +(x/2))^2 <(x^4 +x^3 +x^2 +x+1)<(x^2 +(x/2)+1)^2   for x ∈Even numbers   then it is impossible  to find a  perfect square number  Between (x^2 +(x/2))^2  & (x^2 +(x/2)+1)^2  becsuse  They are consecuative integers.  Then x ∈ odd numbers → (x^2 +(x/2))^2  & (x^2 +(x/2)+1)^2   are not perfect squares but there one perfect square  between them :  (x^2 +(x/2)+(1/2))^2   and since :  (x^2 +(x/2))^2 <(x^4 +x^3 +x^2 +x+1)<(x^2 +(x/2)+1)^2   ∴ x^4 +x^3 +x^2 +x+1=(x^2 +(x/2)+(1/2))^2   x^4 +x^3 +x^2 +x+1=x^4 +x^3 +x^2 +(x^2 /4)+(x/2)+(1/4)  x^2 −2x−3=0 → x ∈ {3 ,−1}   ∴  x = 3 ( That ′s  it )
(x2+x2)2<(x4+x3+x2+x+1)<(x2+x2+1)2forxEvennumbersthenitisimpossibletofindaperfectsquarenumberBetween(x2+x2)2&(x2+x2+1)2becsuseTheyareconsecuativeintegers.Thenxoddnumbers(x2+x2)2&(x2+x2+1)2arenotperfectsquaresbutthereoneperfectsquarebetweenthem:(x2+x2+12)2andsince:(x2+x2)2<(x4+x3+x2+x+1)<(x2+x2+1)2x4+x3+x2+x+1=(x2+x2+12)2x4+x3+x2+x+1=x4+x3+x2+x24+x2+14x22x3=0x{3,1}x=3(Thatsit)
Answered by MM42 last updated on 28/May/23
x(x+1)(x^2 +1)=(y−1)(y+1)  ∗  the lrft side is always even ,so  the right side   must also be even.  (y−1)(y+1),two even numbers are consecutive  we can arrang the left side of the above relationship of the follows  (x^2 +x)(x^2 +1) or (x+1)(x^3 +x) or x(x^3 +x^2 +x+1)  case 1  ∣x^2 +x−x^2 −1∣=2⇒x=−1 × & x=3 ⇒y=11 ✓  case 2  ∣x^3 +x−x−1∣=2⇒x=−1 & (3)^(1/3)  ×   case 3  ∣x^3 +x^2 +x+1−x∣=2⇒∣x^3 +x^2 +1∣=2 ×(because x>0 )  therefore ,the only answer is ; x=3 & y=11
x(x+1)(x2+1)=(y1)(y+1)thelrftsideisalwayseven,sotherightsidemustalsobeeven.(y1)(y+1),twoevennumbersareconsecutivewecanarrangtheleftsideoftheaboverelationshipofthefollows(x2+x)(x2+1)or(x+1)(x3+x)orx(x3+x2+x+1)case1x2+xx21∣=2x=1×&x=3y=11case2x3+xx1∣=2x=1&33×case3x3+x2+x+1x∣=2⇒∣x3+x2+1∣=2×(becausex>0)therefore,theonlyansweris;x=3&y=11
Commented by York12 last updated on 27/May/23
you can subtract 2 also and you will come up  with the same results
youcansubtract2alsoandyouwillcomeupwiththesameresults
Commented by MM42 last updated on 27/May/23
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Commented by York12 last updated on 28/May/23
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