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Question Number 198321 by necx122 last updated on 17/Oct/23
A certain preliminary science class  contains 50 students all of whom take  Mathematics. 18 study Chemistry, 17  study Biology, 24 study Physics. Of  those taking three subjects, 5 study  Physics and Chemistry, 7 study Physics  and Biology and 6 study Chemistry  and Biology while 2 take all four subjects.  How many students study only Mathematics?
$${A}\:{certain}\:{preliminary}\:{science}\:{class} \\ $$$${contains}\:\mathrm{50}\:{students}\:{all}\:{of}\:{whom}\:{take} \\ $$$${Mathematics}.\:\mathrm{18}\:{study}\:{Chemistry},\:\mathrm{17} \\ $$$${study}\:{Biology},\:\mathrm{24}\:{study}\:{Physics}.\:{Of} \\ $$$${those}\:{taking}\:{three}\:{subjects},\:\mathrm{5}\:{study} \\ $$$${Physics}\:{and}\:{Chemistry},\:\mathrm{7}\:{study}\:{Physics} \\ $$$${and}\:{Biology}\:{and}\:\mathrm{6}\:{study}\:{Chemistry} \\ $$$${and}\:{Biology}\:{while}\:\mathrm{2}\:{take}\:{all}\:{four}\:{subjects}. \\ $$$${How}\:{many}\:{students}\:{study}\:{only}\:{Mathematics}? \\ $$
Commented by necx122 last updated on 17/Oct/23
This is another question that troubled me. please help me with the Venn diagram and the solution . Thanks in advance.
Answered by mr W last updated on 17/Oct/23
Commented by mr W last updated on 17/Oct/23
13 study only mathematics.
$$\mathrm{13}\:{study}\:{only}\:{mathematics}. \\ $$
Commented by necx122 last updated on 17/Oct/23
Thank you sir. I really understand this but the textbook says the answer is 7 students.
Commented by mr W last updated on 17/Oct/23
then textbook is wrong.
$${then}\:{textbook}\:{is}\:{wrong}. \\ $$
Commented by necx122 last updated on 17/Oct/23
Ok sir. I actually believe your solving than my textbooks however. After seeing your Venn diagram and the answer you got I resubstituted the values and got 7. I substituted it such that the intersection between each of biology and physics only, biology and chemistry only and chemistry and physics only to reduce by 2. Thus giving us 5 , 4 and 3. Yet, I'll want to agree with you sir. Thank you.
Commented by AST last updated on 18/Oct/23
The answer should be 7.
$${The}\:{answer}\:{should}\:{be}\:\mathrm{7}. \\ $$
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Oct/23
can you please show the corresponding  venn diagram?
$${can}\:{you}\:{please}\:{show}\:{the}\:{corresponding} \\ $$$${venn}\:{diagram}? \\ $$
Commented by AST last updated on 18/Oct/23
Commented by AST last updated on 18/Oct/23
We can also use the formula in the answer   below.
$${We}\:{can}\:{also}\:{use}\:{the}\:{formula}\:{in}\:{the}\:{answer}\: \\ $$$${below}. \\ $$
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Oct/23
according to question:  of those taking three subjects, 5 study  physics and chemistry.  but according to your venn diagram  only 3 study physics and chemistry.
$${according}\:{to}\:{question}: \\ $$$$\underline{{of}\:{those}\:{taking}\:{three}\:{subjects}},\:\mathrm{5}\:{study} \\ $$$${physics}\:{and}\:{chemistry}. \\ $$$${but}\:{according}\:{to}\:{your}\:{venn}\:{diagram} \\ $$$${only}\:\mathrm{3}\:{study}\:{physics}\:{and}\:{chemistry}. \\ $$
Commented by AST last updated on 18/Oct/23
3+2=5, we add the 2 from P,C and B.  3 take Physics and Chemistry only, but 3+2=5  take Physics and Chemistry.
$$\mathrm{3}+\mathrm{2}=\mathrm{5},\:{we}\:{add}\:{the}\:\mathrm{2}\:{from}\:{P},{C}\:{and}\:{B}. \\ $$$$\mathrm{3}\:{take}\:{Physics}\:{and}\:{Chemistry}\:{only},\:{but}\:\mathrm{3}+\mathrm{2}=\mathrm{5} \\ $$$${take}\:{Physics}\:{and}\:{Chemistry}. \\ $$
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Oct/23
but the 2 students take all four subjects,  so they are not those taking three   subjects.
$${but}\:{the}\:\mathrm{2}\:{students}\:{take}\:{all}\:{four}\:{subjects}, \\ $$$${so}\:{they}\:{are}\:{not}\:{those}\:{taking}\:{three}\: \\ $$$${subjects}. \\ $$
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Oct/23
i only accept the answer of the textbook,  if in the question the underlined  sentence doesn′t exist, or if it is  of those taking at least three subjects.
$${i}\:{only}\:{accept}\:{the}\:{answer}\:{of}\:{the}\:{textbook}, \\ $$$${if}\:{in}\:{the}\:{question}\:{the}\:{underlined} \\ $$$${sentence}\:{doesn}'{t}\:{exist},\:{or}\:{if}\:{it}\:{is} \\ $$$$\underline{{of}\:{those}\:{taking}\:{at}\:{least}\:{three}\:{subjects}.} \\ $$
Commented by AST last updated on 18/Oct/23
My solution below is also another way to look  at it.
$${My}\:{solution}\:{below}\:{is}\:{also}\:{another}\:{way}\:{to}\:{look} \\ $$$${at}\:{it}. \\ $$
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Oct/23
at first i solved exactly like you, then  i changed my mind due to the  sentence “of those taking three   subjects, ....”.   anyway i think the answer 7 in textbook   is wrong, if we strictly follow the   text in the question.
$${at}\:{first}\:{i}\:{solved}\:{exactly}\:{like}\:{you},\:{then} \\ $$$${i}\:{changed}\:{my}\:{mind}\:{due}\:{to}\:{the} \\ $$$${sentence}\:“\underline{{of}\:{those}\:{taking}\:{three}\:} \\ $$$$\underline{{subjects}},\:….''.\: \\ $$$${anyway}\:{i}\:{think}\:{the}\:{answer}\:\mathrm{7}\:{in}\:{textbook}\: \\ $$$${is}\:{wrong},\:{if}\:{we}\:{strictly}\:{follow}\:{the}\: \\ $$$${text}\:{in}\:{the}\:{question}. \\ $$
Commented by AST last updated on 18/Oct/23
2 take all subjects imply 2 take Physics,  Chemistry and Biology.
$$\mathrm{2}\:{take}\:{all}\:{subjects}\:{imply}\:\mathrm{2}\:{take}\:{Physics}, \\ $$$${Chemistry}\:{and}\:{Biology}. \\ $$
Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Oct/23
and mathematics as well, since all  students in the class study   mathematics.
$${and}\:{mathematics}\:{as}\:{well},\:{since}\:{all} \\ $$$${students}\:{in}\:{the}\:{class}\:{study}\: \\ $$$${mathematics}. \\ $$
Commented by AST last updated on 18/Oct/23
Yes, but we are considering P,B and C like in  the answer below.  We find the total number that take P,B or C,  which is 43. This means there are 50−43=7 that  do no take any of P,B or C.So,the remaining  take Maths only.
$${Yes},\:{but}\:{we}\:{are}\:{considering}\:{P},{B}\:{and}\:{C}\:{like}\:{in} \\ $$$${the}\:{answer}\:{below}. \\ $$$${We}\:{find}\:{the}\:{total}\:{number}\:{that}\:{take}\:{P},{B}\:{or}\:{C}, \\ $$$${which}\:{is}\:\mathrm{43}.\:{This}\:{means}\:{there}\:{are}\:\mathrm{50}−\mathrm{43}=\mathrm{7}\:{that} \\ $$$${do}\:{no}\:{take}\:{any}\:{of}\:{P},{B}\:{or}\:{C}.{So},{the}\:{remaining} \\ $$$${take}\:{Maths}\:{only}. \\ $$
Commented by necx122 last updated on 18/Oct/23
Thank you very much sir. These comments have helped me understand the question properly. Thank you.
Answered by AST last updated on 18/Oct/23
∣PuBuC∣=∣P∣+∣B∣+∣C∣−∣PnB∣−∣BnC∣−∣PnC∣  +∣PnBnC∣⇒∣PuBuC∣=18+17+24−5−7−6+2  =43  ⇒∣Maths only∣=50−43=7
$$\mid{PuBuC}\mid=\mid{P}\mid+\mid{B}\mid+\mid{C}\mid−\mid{PnB}\mid−\mid{BnC}\mid−\mid{PnC}\mid \\ $$$$+\mid{PnBnC}\mid\Rightarrow\mid{PuBuC}\mid=\mathrm{18}+\mathrm{17}+\mathrm{24}−\mathrm{5}−\mathrm{7}−\mathrm{6}+\mathrm{2} \\ $$$$=\mathrm{43} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow\mid{Maths}\:{only}\mid=\mathrm{50}−\mathrm{43}=\mathrm{7} \\ $$

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