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Question Number 203636 by ajfour last updated on 24/Jan/24
Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Jan/24
Take string length s for question (1).
Takestringlengthsforquestion(1).
Answered by mr W last updated on 24/Jan/24
Commented by mr W last updated on 27/Jan/24
F_x =((mgR)/( (√(s^2 −R^2 ))))  T=((mgs)/( (√(s^2 −R^2 ))))=((mg)/( (√(1−(R^2 /s^2 )))))  θ_k =((2πk)/n), k=1...n−1  ϕ=(π/2)−(θ_k /2)=(π/2)−((kπ)/n)  r_k =2R sin (θ_k /2)=2R sin ((kπ)/n)  F_k =((cq^2 )/r_k ^2 )=((cq^2 )/(4R^2  sin^2  ((kπ)/n)))  F_(k,x) =F_k cos ϕ=((cq^2 )/(4R^2  sin ((kπ)/n)))  F_x =Σ_(k=1) ^(n−1) F_(k,x) =((cq^2 )/(4R^2 ))Σ_(k=1) ^(n−1) (1/(sin ((kπ)/n)))=((mgR)/( (√(s^2 −R^2 ))))  (R^3 /( (√(s^2 −R^2 ))))=((cq^2 )/(4mg))Σ_(k=1) ^(n−1) (1/(sin ((kπ)/n)))=λ^2   with λ=(√(((cq^2 )/(4mg))Σ_(k=1) ^(n−1) (1/(sin ((kπ)/n)))))  R^6 +λ^4 R^2 −λ^4 s^2 =0  R^2 =((λ^4 ((√((s^4 /4)+(λ^4 /(27))))+(s^2 /2))))^(1/3) −((λ^4 ((√((s^4 /4)+(λ^4 /(27))))−(s^2 /2))))^(1/3)     special case: n=3  Σ_(k=1) ^(n−1) (1/(sin ((kπ)/n)))=(1/(sin (π/3)))+(1/(sin ((2π)/3)))=(4/( (√3)))  λ=(√(((cq^2 )/(4mg))×(4/( (√3)))))=(μ/( (√(√3)))) with μ=(√((cq^2 )/(mg)))  R^2 =(((μ^4 /3)((√((s^4 /4)+(μ^4 /(81))))+(s^2 /2))))^(1/3) −(((μ^4 /3)((√((s^4 /4)+(μ^4 /(81))))−(s^2 /2))))^(1/3)   (T/(mg))=(s/( (√(s^2 +(((μ^4 /3)((√((s^4 /4)+(μ^4 /(81))))−(s^2 /2))))^(1/3) −(((μ^4 /3)((√((s^4 /4)+(μ^4 /(81))))+(s^2 /2))))^(1/3) ))))
Fx=mgRs2R2T=mgss2R2=mg1R2s2θk=2πkn,k=1n1φ=π2θk2=π2kπnrk=2Rsinθk2=2RsinkπnFk=cq2rk2=cq24R2sin2kπnFk,x=Fkcosφ=cq24R2sinkπnFx=n1k=1Fk,x=cq24R2n1k=11sinkπn=mgRs2R2R3s2R2=cq24mgn1k=11sinkπn=λ2withλ=cq24mgn1k=11sinkπnR6+λ4R2λ4s2=0R2=λ4(s44+λ427+s22)3λ4(s44+λ427s22)3specialcase:n=3n1k=11sinkπn=1sinπ3+1sin2π3=43λ=cq24mg×43=μ3withμ=cq2mgR2=μ43(s44+μ481+s22)3μ43(s44+μ481s22)3Tmg=ss2+μ43(s44+μ481s22)3μ43(s44+μ481+s22)3
Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Jan/24
utterly amazing Sir.
utterlyamazingSir.
Commented by mr W last updated on 25/Jan/24
thanks sir! the question 2 is much  harder. have you tried?
thankssir!thequestion2ismuchharder.haveyoutried?
Commented by ajfour last updated on 25/Jan/24
Thats why i havnt tried, but i m starting to think, few hours...
Commented by mr W last updated on 27/Jan/24
solution to question 2   see Q203726
solutiontoquestion2seeQ203726

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