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Question Number 216060 by mr W last updated on 26/Jan/25
Commented by mr W last updated on 26/Jan/25
find radius of inscribed circle r=?
findradiusofinscribedcircler=?
Answered by mr W last updated on 26/Jan/25
say μ=(b/a), λ=(r/a)  say P(a cos θ, b sin θ)  tan φ=−(dx/dy)=((a sin θ)/(b cos θ))=((tan θ)/μ)=(m/μ)  b sin θ=r sin φ  ⇒μ sin θ=((λm)/( (√(m^2 +μ^2 ))))   ...(i)  a cos θ=r+r cos φ  ⇒cos θ=λ(1+(μ/( (√(m^2 +μ^2 )))))   ...(ii)  (i)/(ii):  μ tan θ=(m/(μ+(√(m^2 +μ^2 ))))  μ=(1/(μ+(√(m^2 +μ^2 ))))  (√(m^2 +μ^2 ))=(1/μ)−μ  ⇒m^2 =(1/μ^2 )−2 ≥0 ⇒μ≤(1/( (√2))) ⇒a≥(√2)b  from (i):  μ sin θ=((λm)/( (√(m^2 +μ^2 ))))  ((μm)/( (√(1+m^2 ))))=((λm)/( (√(m^2 +μ^2 ))))  ⇒λ=((μ (√(m^2 +μ^2 )))/( (√(1+m^2 ))))=((μ((1/μ)−μ))/( (√((1/μ^2 )−1))))=μ(√(1−μ^2 ))  i.e. r=b(√(1−((b/a))^2 ))
sayμ=ba,λ=rasayP(acosθ,bsinθ)tanϕ=dxdy=asinθbcosθ=tanθμ=mμbsinθ=rsinϕμsinθ=λmm2+μ2(i)acosθ=r+rcosϕcosθ=λ(1+μm2+μ2)(ii)(i)/(ii):μtanθ=mμ+m2+μ2μ=1μ+m2+μ2m2+μ2=1μμm2=1μ220μ12a2bfrom(i):μsinθ=λmm2+μ2μm1+m2=λmm2+μ2λ=μm2+μ21+m2=μ(1μμ)1μ21=μ1μ2i.e.r=b1(ba)2
Commented by mr W last updated on 26/Jan/25
Commented by mr W last updated on 26/Jan/25
Commented by ajfour last updated on 27/Jan/25
If a≤(√2)b   then   such  r=(a/2)  And if  a≥(√2)b     r=(b/a)(√(a^2 −b^2 ))  Isnt it this to summarize, Sir? Thanks.
Ifa2bthensuchr=a2Andifa2br=baa2b2Isntitthistosummarize,Sir?Thanks.
Commented by mr W last updated on 27/Jan/25
if a=(√2)b then r=(a/2).  if a<(√2)b then no inscribed circle   possible.
ifa=2bthenr=a2.ifa<2bthennoinscribedcirclepossible.
Answered by aleks041103 last updated on 27/Jan/25
Commented by aleks041103 last updated on 27/Jan/25
The circle is tangent to the ellipse and therefore  the radius is ⊥ to the tangent to the ellipse  at this point.  The tangent of an ellipse is ⊥ to the angle  bisector of the angle between the segments  connecting point the foci to the point.  Thus we get the top schematic.  Now:  x+y=2a ⇒ y=2a−x  (x/y)=((c+r)/(c−r))  xy−(c+r)(c−r)=r^2  ⇒ xy=c^2 =a^2 −b^2   c=a(√(1−((b/a))^2 ))  ⇒x(2a−x)=a^2 −b^2   ⇒(x−a)^2 −b^2 =0  ⇒x=a+b;a−b  but x>y ⇒ x=a+b, y=a−b  ⇒(x/h)=((a+b)/(a−b))=((c+r)/(c−r))  ⇒r=((bc)/a)  ⇒r=b(√(1−((b/a))^2 ))
Thecircleistangenttotheellipseandthereforetheradiusistothetangenttotheellipseatthispoint.Thetangentofanellipseistotheanglebisectoroftheanglebetweenthesegmentsconnectingpointthefocitothepoint.Thuswegetthetopschematic.Now:x+y=2ay=2axxy=c+rcrxy(c+r)(cr)=r2xy=c2=a2b2c=a1(ba)2x(2ax)=a2b2(xa)2b2=0x=a+b;abbutx>yx=a+b,y=abxh=a+bab=c+rcrr=bcar=b1(ba)2
Commented by aleks041103 last updated on 27/Jan/25
The radius to the point P (original schematic)  is perpendicular(⊥) to the tangent of the  ellipse at P (since the tangent of the circle  coinsides with the tangent to the ellipse).
TheradiustothepointP(originalschematic)isperpendicular()tothetangentoftheellipseatP(sincethetangentofthecirclecoinsideswiththetangenttotheellipse).
Commented by mr W last updated on 27/Jan/25
thanks for this nice solution!
thanksforthisnicesolution!

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