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Question Number 129542 by mr W last updated on 16/Jan/21

Commented by mr W last updated on 16/Jan/21

when the man climbs the ladder from  bottom to top, how much does the  block move and in which direction?

whenthemanclimbstheladderfrombottomtotop,howmuchdoestheblockmoveandinwhichdirection?

Answered by ajfour last updated on 17/Jan/21

If man climbs ladder in time t.  F−mg=ma ↑(system: man only)  (system: ladder and block)  F−mg=(2M+m)A ↓   (2M+m)A=ma  (1/2)(A+a)t^2 =L  (1/2)(1+1+((2M)/m))At^2 =L  (1/2)At^2 =y  dividing  (y/L)=(m/(2(M+m)))     y_(block) =((mL)/(2(M+m)))  ↑

Ifmanclimbsladderintimet.Fmg=ma(system:manonly)(system:ladderandblock)Fmg=(2M+m)A(2M+m)A=ma12(A+a)t2=L12(1+1+2Mm)At2=L12At2=ydividingyL=m2(M+m)yblock=mL2(M+m)

Commented by mr W last updated on 16/Jan/21

great! thanks!

great!thanks!

Commented by Emptyset last updated on 17/Jan/21

can you please elaborate

canyoupleaseelaborate

Answered by mr W last updated on 17/Jan/21

Commented by mr W last updated on 17/Jan/21

T=tension in massless rope  F=force between man and ladder  a=acceleration of man upwards  A=acceleration of block upwards      =acceleration of ladder downwards    system man:  F−mg=ma   ...(i)    system ladder:  F+Mg−T=MA   ...(ii)    system block:  T−(M+m)g=(M+m)A   ...(iii)    (ii)+(iii):  F−mg=(2M+m)A  ⇒F=2(M+m)A+mg  put this into (i):  (2M+m)A=ma  ⇒a=((2M+m)/m)×A  relative acceleration between man   and ladder a_R =a+A=((2(M+m))/m)×A  ⇒(A/a_R )=(m/(2(M+m)))  say the distance the block moves is H,  H=(1/2)At^2   the distance the man moves relatively  to ladder is L,  L=(1/2)a_R t^2   ⇒(H/L)=(A/a_R )=(m/(2(M+m)))  ⇒H=((mL)/(2(M+m)))  its direction is upwards.

T=tensioninmasslessropeF=forcebetweenmanandladdera=accelerationofmanupwardsA=accelerationofblockupwards=accelerationofladderdownwardssystemman:Fmg=ma...(i)systemladder:F+MgT=MA...(ii)systemblock:T(M+m)g=(M+m)A...(iii)(ii)+(iii):Fmg=(2M+m)AF=2(M+m)A+mgputthisinto(i):(2M+m)A=maa=2M+mm×ArelativeaccelerationbetweenmanandladderaR=a+A=2(M+m)m×AAaR=m2(M+m)saythedistancetheblockmovesisH,H=12At2thedistancethemanmovesrelativelytoladderisL,L=12aRt2HL=AaR=m2(M+m)H=mL2(M+m)itsdirectionisupwards.

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