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Question Number 158664 by mr W last updated on 07/Nov/21

Commented by mr W last updated on 07/Nov/21

AQ=CP=BR  find the smallest area of ΔPQR   in terms of a, b.

$${AQ}={CP}={BR} \\ $$$${find}\:{the}\:{smallest}\:{area}\:{of}\:\Delta{PQR}\: \\ $$$${in}\:{terms}\:{of}\:{a},\:{b}. \\ $$

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 07/Nov/21

Great sir

$$\mathrm{Great}\:\mathrm{sir} \\ $$

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 16/Nov/21

Great sir

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Answered by ajfour last updated on 07/Nov/21

C origin.    AQ=CP=BR=r  a^2 +b^2 =s^2         Equation of AB: (x/a)+(y/b)=1  P(0,r)  ; R(a−((ar)/s), ((br)/s)) ; Q(0,b−r)  2A_(△PQR) =ab−r(b−r)            −((rb)/s)(a−r)−r(a−((ar)/s))  ((d(2A_(△PQR) ))/dr)=0   ⇒   2r−b+((2br)/s)−((ab)/s)−a+((2ar)/s)=0  ⇒  2r(1+((a+b)/s))=a+b+((ab)/s)    2r=(((a+b)(√(a^2 +b^2 ))+ab)/( ((√(a^2 +b^2 ))+ab)))  2A_(△PQR) =(((a+b)/( (√(a^2 +b^2 ))))+1)r^2           −(((ab)/( (√(a^2 +b^2 ))))+a+b)r+ab     =ab−(((a+b)/s)+1)r^2   hence    A_(△PQR_(min) )  =    ((ab)/2)−(1/8)(((a+b)/s)+1)(((a+b+((ab)/s))/(1+((a+b)/s))))^2       ∀  s=(√(a^2 +b^2 ))  but let me check  a=b=(√2)  A_(min) =1−((((√2)+1))/8)(((2(√2)+1)/(1+(√2))))^2          =1−(((9+4(√2)))/(8(1+(√2))))         =1−(((9+4(√2))((√2)−1))/8)         =1−(((5(√2)−1))/8)         =((9−5(√2))/8)

$${C}\:{origin}.\: \\ $$$$\:{AQ}={CP}={BR}={r} \\ $$$${a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} ={s}^{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\: \\ $$$${Equation}\:{of}\:{AB}:\:\frac{{x}}{{a}}+\frac{{y}}{{b}}=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$${P}\left(\mathrm{0},{r}\right)\:\:;\:{R}\left({a}−\frac{{ar}}{{s}},\:\frac{{br}}{{s}}\right)\:;\:{Q}\left(\mathrm{0},{b}−{r}\right) \\ $$$$\mathrm{2}{A}_{\bigtriangleup{PQR}} ={ab}−{r}\left({b}−{r}\right) \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:−\frac{{rb}}{{s}}\left({a}−{r}\right)−{r}\left({a}−\frac{{ar}}{{s}}\right) \\ $$$$\frac{{d}\left(\mathrm{2}{A}_{\bigtriangleup{PQR}} \right)}{{dr}}=\mathrm{0}\:\:\:\Rightarrow \\ $$$$\:\mathrm{2}{r}−{b}+\frac{\mathrm{2}{br}}{{s}}−\frac{{ab}}{{s}}−{a}+\frac{\mathrm{2}{ar}}{{s}}=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow\:\:\mathrm{2}{r}\left(\mathrm{1}+\frac{{a}+{b}}{{s}}\right)={a}+{b}+\frac{{ab}}{{s}} \\ $$$$\:\:\mathrm{2}{r}=\frac{\left({a}+{b}\right)\sqrt{{a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} }+{ab}}{\:\left(\sqrt{{a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} }+{ab}\right)} \\ $$$$\mathrm{2}{A}_{\bigtriangleup{PQR}} =\left(\frac{{a}+{b}}{\:\sqrt{{a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} }}+\mathrm{1}\right){r}^{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:−\left(\frac{{ab}}{\:\sqrt{{a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} }}+{a}+{b}\right){r}+{ab} \\ $$$$\:\:\:={ab}−\left(\frac{{a}+{b}}{{s}}+\mathrm{1}\right){r}^{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$${hence} \\ $$$$\:\:{A}_{\bigtriangleup{PQR}_{{min}} } \:= \\ $$$$\:\:\frac{{ab}}{\mathrm{2}}−\frac{\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{8}}\left(\frac{{a}+{b}}{{s}}+\mathrm{1}\right)\left(\frac{{a}+{b}+\frac{{ab}}{{s}}}{\mathrm{1}+\frac{{a}+{b}}{{s}}}\right)^{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\forall\:\:{s}=\sqrt{{a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} } \\ $$$${but}\:{let}\:{me}\:{check} \\ $$$${a}={b}=\sqrt{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$${A}_{{min}} =\mathrm{1}−\frac{\left(\sqrt{\mathrm{2}}+\mathrm{1}\right)}{\mathrm{8}}\left(\frac{\mathrm{2}\sqrt{\mathrm{2}}+\mathrm{1}}{\mathrm{1}+\sqrt{\mathrm{2}}}\right)^{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\:\:\:=\mathrm{1}−\frac{\left(\mathrm{9}+\mathrm{4}\sqrt{\mathrm{2}}\right)}{\mathrm{8}\left(\mathrm{1}+\sqrt{\mathrm{2}}\right)} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\:\:\:=\mathrm{1}−\frac{\left(\mathrm{9}+\mathrm{4}\sqrt{\mathrm{2}}\right)\left(\sqrt{\mathrm{2}}−\mathrm{1}\right)}{\mathrm{8}} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\:\:\:=\mathrm{1}−\frac{\left(\mathrm{5}\sqrt{\mathrm{2}}−\mathrm{1}\right)}{\mathrm{8}} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\:\:\:=\frac{\mathrm{9}−\mathrm{5}\sqrt{\mathrm{2}}}{\mathrm{8}} \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 07/Nov/21

thanks sir!  it′s correct!

$${thanks}\:{sir}! \\ $$$${it}'{s}\:{correct}! \\ $$

Commented by ajfour last updated on 07/Nov/21

isnt max=((ab)/2)  itself?

$${isnt}\:{max}=\frac{{ab}}{\mathrm{2}}\:\:{itself}? \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 07/Nov/21

yes!

$${yes}! \\ $$

Answered by mr W last updated on 07/Nov/21

c=(√(a^2 +b^2 ))  AQ=BR=CP=t  (A_(ΔPQR) /A_(ΔABC) )=1−((t(b−t))/(ab))−((t(a−t))/(ac))−((t(c−t))/(bc))  (A_(ΔPQR) /A_(ΔABC) )=1−((t(ab+bc+ca)−t^2 (a+b+c))/(abc))  such that A_(ΔPQR)  is minimum:    (d/dt)((A_(ΔPQR) /A_(ΔABC) ))=0  ⇒(ab+bc+ca)−2(a+b+c)t=0   ⇒t=((ab+bc+ca)/(2(a+b+c)))  ((max. A_(ΔPQR) )/A_(ΔABC) )=1−(((ab+bc+ca)^2 )/(4abc(a+b+c)))  max. A_(ΔPQR) =((ab)/2)−(([ab+(a+b)(√(a^2 +b^2 ))]^2 )/(8(√(a^2 +b^2 ))(a+b+(√(a^2 +b^2 )))))

$${c}=\sqrt{{a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} } \\ $$$${AQ}={BR}={CP}={t} \\ $$$$\frac{{A}_{\Delta{PQR}} }{{A}_{\Delta{ABC}} }=\mathrm{1}−\frac{{t}\left({b}−{t}\right)}{{ab}}−\frac{{t}\left({a}−{t}\right)}{{ac}}−\frac{{t}\left({c}−{t}\right)}{{bc}} \\ $$$$\frac{{A}_{\Delta{PQR}} }{{A}_{\Delta{ABC}} }=\mathrm{1}−\frac{{t}\left({ab}+{bc}+{ca}\right)−{t}^{\mathrm{2}} \left({a}+{b}+{c}\right)}{{abc}} \\ $$$${such}\:{that}\:{A}_{\Delta{PQR}} \:{is}\:{minimum}:\: \\ $$$$\:\frac{{d}}{{dt}}\left(\frac{{A}_{\Delta{PQR}} }{{A}_{\Delta{ABC}} }\right)=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow\left({ab}+{bc}+{ca}\right)−\mathrm{2}\left({a}+{b}+{c}\right){t}=\mathrm{0}\: \\ $$$$\Rightarrow{t}=\frac{{ab}+{bc}+{ca}}{\mathrm{2}\left({a}+{b}+{c}\right)} \\ $$$$\frac{{max}.\:{A}_{\Delta{PQR}} }{{A}_{\Delta{ABC}} }=\mathrm{1}−\frac{\left({ab}+{bc}+{ca}\right)^{\mathrm{2}} }{\mathrm{4}{abc}\left({a}+{b}+{c}\right)} \\ $$$${max}.\:{A}_{\Delta{PQR}} =\frac{{ab}}{\mathrm{2}}−\frac{\left[{ab}+\left({a}+{b}\right)\sqrt{{a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} }\right]^{\mathrm{2}} }{\mathrm{8}\sqrt{{a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} }\left({a}+{b}+\sqrt{{a}^{\mathrm{2}} +{b}^{\mathrm{2}} }\right)} \\ $$

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