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Question Number 164174 by mr W last updated on 15/Jan/22

Commented by mr W last updated on 15/Jan/22

find the position of point P in a  given triangle such that the sum  of its distances to the vertices is  minimum. find the corresponding  distances to the vertices.

findthepositionofpointPinagiventrianglesuchthatthesumofitsdistancestotheverticesisminimum.findthecorrespondingdistancestothevertices.

Answered by mr W last updated on 15/Jan/22

Commented by mr W last updated on 15/Jan/22

Commented by mr W last updated on 15/Jan/22

this point P is the so−called   Fermat point, see diagram above.  say its distances to the vertices are  x, y, z respectively.  we have  x^2 +y^2 −2xy cos 120°=c^2   x^2 +y^2 +xy=c^2   similarly  y^2 +z^2 +yz=a^2   z^2 +x^2 +zx=b^2   say the area of triangle is Δ, then  Δ=((√((a+b+c)(−a+b+c)(a−b+c)(a+b−c)))/4)  on the other side,  ((xy sin 120°)/2)+((yz sin 120°)/2)+((zx sin 120°)/2)=Δ  ((√3)/4)(xy+yz+zx)=Δ  xy+yz+zx=((4Δ)/( (√3)))

thispointPisthesocalledFermatpoint,seediagramabove.sayitsdistancestotheverticesarex,y,zrespectively.wehavex2+y22xycos120°=c2x2+y2+xy=c2similarlyy2+z2+yz=a2z2+x2+zx=b2saytheareaoftriangleisΔ,thenΔ=(a+b+c)(a+b+c)(ab+c)(a+bc)4ontheotherside,xysin120°2+yzsin120°2+zxsin120°2=Δ34(xy+yz+zx)=Δxy+yz+zx=4Δ3

Commented by mr W last updated on 16/Jan/22

BA′=(2/3)×(((√3)a)/2)=(((√3)a)/3)  BC′=(((√3)c)/3)  ∠A′BC′=∠B+60°  C′A′^2 =((((√3)a)/3))^2 +((((√3)c)/3))^2 −2×(((√3)a)/3)×(((√3)c)/3) cos (∠B+60°)  C′A′^2 =((a^2 +c^2 −ac(cos ∠B−(√3) sin ∠B) )/3)  C′A′^2 =(1/3)[a^2 +c^2 −ac(((a^2 +c^2 −b^2 )/(2ac))−((2(√3)Δ)/(ac)))]  C′A′^2 =((a^2 +b^2 +c^2 +4(√3)Δ)/6)  C′A′=A′B′=B′C′=(√((a^2 +b^2 +c^2 +4(√3)Δ)/6))=d, say  (this is the side length of Napoleon  triangle A′B′C′)    ((yd)/2)=(((√3)a)/3)×(((√3)c)/3)×sin (∠B+60°)=area [PA′BC′]  y=((ac)/(3d))×(sin ∠B+(√3) cos ∠B)  y=((ac)/(3d))×(((2Δ)/(ac))+(√3) ×((a^2 +c^2 −b^2 )/(2ac)))  y=((4Δ+(√3)(a^2 −b^2 +c^2 ))/(6d))  y=((4(√6)Δ+3(√2)(a^2 −b^2 +c^2 ))/( 6(√(a^2 +b^2 +c^2 +4(√3)Δ))))  similarly  x=((4(√6)Δ+3(√2)(−a^2 +b^2 +c^2 ))/( 6(√(a^2 +b^2 +c^2 +4(√3)Δ))))  z=((4(√6)Δ+3(√2)(a^2 +b^2 −c^2 ))/(6(√(a^2 +b^2 +c^2 +4(√3)Δ))))    x+y+z=(√((a^2 +b^2 +c^2 +4(√3)Δ)/2))  ■

BA=23×3a2=3a3BC=3c3ABC=B+60°CA2=(3a3)2+(3c3)22×3a3×3c3cos(B+60°)CA2=a2+c2ac(cosB3sinB)3CA2=13[a2+c2ac(a2+c2b22ac23Δac)]CA2=a2+b2+c2+43Δ6CA=AB=BC=a2+b2+c2+43Δ6=d,say(thisisthesidelengthofNapoleontriangleABC)yd2=3a3×3c3×sin(B+60°)=area[PABC]y=ac3d×(sinB+3cosB)y=ac3d×(2Δac+3×a2+c2b22ac)y=4Δ+3(a2b2+c2)6dy=46Δ+32(a2b2+c2)6a2+b2+c2+43Δsimilarlyx=46Δ+32(a2+b2+c2)6a2+b2+c2+43Δz=46Δ+32(a2+b2c2)6a2+b2+c2+43Δx+y+z=a2+b2+c2+43Δ2

Commented by behi834171 last updated on 15/Jan/22

very nice solution,dear master.thanks a lot.  a=b=c⇒Δ=a^2 .((√3)/4)  4(√3)Δ+b^2 +3c^2 −a^2 =4(√3)×a^2 .((√3)/4)+3a^2 =6a^2   4(√3)Δ+a^2 +b^2 +c^2 =4(√3)×a^2 .((√3)/4)+3a^2 =6a^2   ⇒y=x=z=(√(((4a^2 )/3)−a^2 ))=a.((√3)/3)  .■  [also  see  q≠14157]

verynicesolution,dearmaster.thanksalot.a=b=cΔ=a2.3443Δ+b2+3c2a2=43×a2.34+3a2=6a243Δ+a2+b2+c2=43×a2.34+3a2=6a2y=x=z=4a23a2=a.33.[alsoseeq14157]

Commented by mr W last updated on 15/Jan/22

thanks alot sir!  i′ve forgot that old post.  now i have found a better formula in  symmetric form for x, y, z, see above,  please review!

thanksalotsir!iveforgotthatoldpost.nowihavefoundabetterformulainsymmetricformforx,y,z,seeabove,pleasereview!

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 15/Jan/22

Great sir.

Greatsir.

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 15/Jan/22

Thanks for your time.

Thanksforyourtime.

Commented by behi834171 last updated on 15/Jan/22

this is much more  beautiful.  dear master! your approach  to questions    is unique.  this methods are especially yours.  i learn much from your posts.  god bless you for this lovely furom.

thisismuchmorebeautiful.dearmaster!yourapproachtoquestionsisunique.thismethodsareespeciallyyours.ilearnmuchfromyourposts.godblessyouforthislovelyfurom.

Commented by mr W last updated on 15/Jan/22

thanks for reviewing my posts sir!

thanksforreviewingmypostssir!

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