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Question Number 83608 by john santu last updated on 04/Mar/20

((17+x))^(1/(4  ))  + ((17−x))^(1/(4  ))  = 2   find x

17+x4+17x4=2findx

Commented by mr W last updated on 04/Mar/20

LHS≥((2×17))^(1/4) >((2×16))^(1/4) >((16))^(1/4) =2=RHS  ⇒no solution for LHS=RHS

LHS2×174>2×164>164=2=RHSnosolutionforLHS=RHS

Commented by jagoll last updated on 04/Mar/20

yes. i got x = ∅

yes.igotx=

Commented by john santu last updated on 04/Mar/20

okay

okay

Commented by MJS last updated on 04/Mar/20

x=a+bi  scetch it; let b>0 [similar for b<0]  z_1 =17+a+bi lies above the real axis  z_2 =17−a−bi lies under the real axis  the angles of z_1  and z_2  are only of ±the same  values if a=0. but then ∣z_1 ^(1/4) ∣=∣z_2 ^(1/4) ∣≥(√(17))>2  otherwise the angles and the absolutes are  different and I don′t see a chance the sum  of the roots might be real

x=a+biscetchit;letb>0[similarforb<0]z1=17+a+biliesabovetherealaxisz2=17abiliesundertherealaxistheanglesofz1andz2areonlyof±thesamevaluesifa=0.butthenz114∣=∣z214∣⩾17>2otherwisetheanglesandtheabsolutesaredifferentandIdontseeachancethesumoftherootsmightbereal

Answered by behi83417@gmail.com last updated on 04/Mar/20

17+x=m,17−x=n  ⇒ { ((m+n=34)),((m^4 +n^4 =2)) :}⇒ { ((let:m+n=p,mn=q)),((⇒m^4 +n^4 =[(m+n)^2 −2mn]^2 −2m^2 n^2 )),((⇒m^4 +n^4 =(p^2 −2q)^2 −2q^2 =p^4 −4qp^2 +2q^2 )) :}  ⇒ { ((p=34)),((p^4 −4qp^2 +2q^2 =2⇒34^4 −4×34^2 ×q+2q^2 =2)) :}  ⇒q^2 −2312q+668167=0  ⇒q=((2312±(√(2312^2 −4×668167)))/2)⋍1973,338  ⇒ { ((p=34)),((q=1973,338)) :}  ⇒z^2 −34z+(1973,338)=0⇒z= { ((z_(1,2) =34±82i)),((z_(3,4) =34±14i)) :}  ⇒ { ((17+x=34±82i⇒x=17±82i)),((17−x=34±82i⇒x=−17∓82i)),((17+x=34±14i⇒x=17±14i)),((17−x=34±14i⇒x=−17∓14i)) :}

17+x=m,17x=n{m+n=34m4+n4=2{let:m+n=p,mn=qm4+n4=[(m+n)22mn]22m2n2m4+n4=(p22q)22q2=p44qp2+2q2{p=34p44qp2+2q2=23444×342×q+2q2=2q22312q+668167=0q=2312±231224×66816721973,338{p=34q=1973,338z234z+(1973,338)=0z={z1,2=34±82iz3,4=34±14i{17+x=34±82ix=17±82i17x=34±82ix=1782i17+x=34±14ix=17±14i17x=34±14ix=1714i

Commented by mr W last updated on 04/Mar/20

nice solution sir!

nicesolutionsir!

Commented by MJS last updated on 04/Mar/20

none of these solve the given equation

noneofthesesolvethegivenequation

Commented by MJS last updated on 04/Mar/20

I don′t think this has any solution

Idontthinkthishasanysolution

Commented by behi83417@gmail.com last updated on 04/Mar/20

thank you dear masters:mrW sir and  MJS sir.  any way,i think this is a nice method  for solving such questions.  mybe someone likes to try this two:  1.   ((97−x))^(1/4) +(x)^(1/4) =5  2.   (√(1−x^2 ))=(a−(√x))^2

thankyoudearmasters:mrWsirandMJSsir.anyway,ithinkthisisanicemethodforsolvingsuchquestions.mybesomeonelikestotrythistwo:1.97x4+x4=52.1x2=(ax)2

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