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Question Number 190520 by mathlove last updated on 04/Apr/23

if a,b and c root of the  x^3 −16x^2 −57x+1=0  thi find thd volue of  a^(1/5) +b^(1/5) +c^(1/5) =?

ifa,bandcrootofthex316x257x+1=0thifindthdvolueofa15+b15+c15=?

Answered by Frix last updated on 05/Apr/23

If the solution is ∈Z we need to find a  polynomial factor of degree 3 of  t^(15) −16t^(10) −57t^5 +1  I used software to find the factor  t^3 −1t^2 −2t+1  The other factor of degree 12 is prime  ⇒ answer is 1  [I don′t know if there′s an analytical  method to solve this]

IfthesolutionisZweneedtofindapolynomialfactorofdegree3oft1516t1057t5+1Iusedsoftwaretofindthefactort31t22t+1Theotherfactorofdegree12isprimeansweris1[Idontknowiftheresananalyticalmethodtosolvethis]

Answered by behi834171 last updated on 05/Apr/23

x^3 =16x^2 +57x−1  x^4 =16x^3 +57x^2 −x=16(16x^2 +57x−1)+57x^2 −x=  =313x^2 +911x−16  x^5 =313x^3 +911x^2 −16x=313(16x^2 +57x−1)+911x^2 −16x=  =5919x^2 +17852x−313  ⇒x^5 −5919x^2 −17852x+313=0  y=(1/x)⇒(1/y^5 )−((5919)/y^2 )−((17852)/y)+313=0  ⇒313y^5 −17852y^4 −5919y^3 +1=0  ⇒Σa^(1/5) =−((−17852)/(313))=((17852)/(313))      .■

x3=16x2+57x1x4=16x3+57x2x=16(16x2+57x1)+57x2x==313x2+911x16x5=313x3+911x216x=313(16x2+57x1)+911x216x==5919x2+17852x313x55919x217852x+313=0y=1x1y55919y217852y+313=0313y517852y45919y3+1=0Σa15=17852313=17852313.

Commented by mr W last updated on 07/Apr/23

thanks sir!  your method seems to be a good  idea, but i think it is not correct.  when you transform the equation  to  313y^5 −17852y^4 −5919y^3 +1=0,  it has 5 roots. so you get with  Σy=Σ(1/x)=((17852)/(313)) the sum of all its 5  roots,  i.e. (1/a)+(1/b)+(1/c)+(1/d)+(1/e)=((17852)/(313)).  but this is not that what the original  question has requested:  a^(1/5) +b^(1/5) +c^(1/5) =?

thankssir!yourmethodseemstobeagoodidea,butithinkitisnotcorrect.whenyoutransformtheequationto313y517852y45919y3+1=0,ithas5roots.soyougetwithΣy=Σ1x=17852313thesumofallits5roots,i.e.1a+1b+1c+1d+1e=17852313.butthisisnotthatwhattheoriginalquestionhasrequested:a15+b15+c15=?

Commented by behi834171 last updated on 08/Apr/23

hello my dear master.  you are right, and ,i have a terrible typo  i dont delete  my way,but will correct it  and i will post that.  thanks for pointing this.

hellomydearmaster.youareright,and,ihaveaterribletypoidontdeletemyway,butwillcorrectitandiwillpostthat.thanksforpointingthis.

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