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Question Number 198763 by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

8 small balls and a big ball on a  table touch each other.  if the radius of the small balls is r,  find the radius of the big ball.

8smallballsandabigballonatabletoucheachother.iftheradiusofthesmallballsisr,findtheradiusofthebigball.

Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Oct/23

could it be   (R/r)=1+(1/( (√2)))  ≈1.707

coulditbeRr=1+121.707

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

yes. i got the same.

yes.igotthesame.

Answered by MM42 last updated on 24/Oct/23

α=45^0   & (2r)^2 =(R+r)^2 +(R+r)^2 −2(R+r)^2 ×cos45  (2r)^2 =(R+r)^2 (2−(√2))  ⇒R+r=((2r)/( (√(2−(√2))))) ⇒R=((2/( (√(2−(√2)))))−1)r  R=((√(4+2(√2)))−1)r  ✓

α=450&(2r)2=(R+r)2+(R+r)22(R+r)2×cos45(2r)2=(R+r)2(22)R+r=2r22R=(2221)rR=(4+221)r

Commented by MM42 last updated on 24/Oct/23

Answered by nikif99 last updated on 24/Oct/23

  R+r=(a/(2 sin (((180)/n))))=((2r)/(2 sin 22.5)) ⇒R=r((1/((√(2−(√2)))/2))−1)=  r((2/( (√(2−(√2)))))−1)=r(((2(√(2+(√2))))/( (√2)))−1) ⇒  R=r((√2)∙(√(2+(√2)))−1)≈1.613r

R+r=a2sin(180n)=2r2sin22.5R=r(12221)=r(2221)=r(22+221)R=r(22+21)1.613r

Commented by nikif99 last updated on 24/Oct/23

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

be carefull!  in ground view the big circle with  radius R doesnt touch the small  circles with radius r. they overlap!

becarefull!ingroundviewthebigcirclewithradiusRdoesnttouchthesmallcircleswithradiusr.theyoverlap!

Commented by nikif99 last updated on 24/Oct/23

right. A detail not noticed.

right.Adetailnotnoticed.

Answered by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

θ=((360°)/(8×2))=22.5°  1−2 sin^2  22.5°=cos 45°=((√2)/2)  ⇒sin 22.5°=((√(2−(√2)))/2)  a=(r/(sin θ))=((2r)/( (√(2−(√2)))))=(√(2(2+(√2))))r  (R+r)^2 −(R−r)^2 =a^2   4Rr=2(2+(√2))r^2   ⇒(R/r)=1+((√2)/2)≈1.707  ■

θ=360°8×2=22.5°12sin222.5°=cos45°=22sin22.5°=222a=rsinθ=2r22=2(2+2)r(R+r)2(Rr)2=a24Rr=2(2+2)r2Rr=1+221.707

Commented by MM42 last updated on 24/Oct/23

Sir W  in the two image given by you,  the value of “a ” dose not match

SirWinthetwoimagegivenbyyou,thevalueofadosenotmatch

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

but they do match! “a” is the projection  of OA in horizontal direction.  the first image is a ground view, i.e.  a view from top.  a≠OA=OB  a=O′A′=O′B′

buttheydomatch!aistheprojectionofOAinhorizontaldirection.thefirstimageisagroundview,i.e.aviewfromtop.aOA=OBa=OA=OB

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

Commented by BaliramKumar last updated on 24/Oct/23

you are right Sir    We understood that these are all circles

youarerightSirWe understood that these are all circles

Commented by MM42 last updated on 24/Oct/23

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Commented by MM42 last updated on 24/Oct/23

Sir W  with your explantion, i understand.  thankful.   ⋛

SirWwithyourexplantion,iunderstand.thankful.

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Oct/23

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