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Question Number 202392 by MATHEMATICSAM last updated on 26/Dec/23

If the ratio of the roots of ax^2  + bx + b = 0  is p : q then show that  (√(p/q)) + (√(q/p)) + (√(b/a)) = 0.

Iftheratiooftherootsofax2+bx+b=0isp:qthenshowthatpq+qp+ba=0.

Commented by MATHEMATICSAM last updated on 26/Dec/23

The question is corrected now

Thequestioniscorrectednow

Commented by Frix last updated on 27/Dec/23

Example  2x^2 +9x+9=0  p=−3∧q=−(3/2)  (√(p/q))+(√(q/p))+(√(b/a))=3(√2)

Example2x2+9x+9=0p=3q=32pq+qp+ba=32

Commented by MATHEMATICSAM last updated on 27/Dec/23

Let α and β are the roots of ax^2  + bx + b = 0  So α + β = − (b/a) , αβ = (b/a) , (p/q) = (α/β)  (√(p/q)) + (√(q/p)) + (√(b/a))   = (√(α/β)) + (√(β/α)) + (√(b/a))  = ((α + β)/( (√(αβ)))) + (√(b/a))  = ((− (b/a))/( (√(b/a)))) + (√(b/a))  = − (√(b/a)) + (√(b/a))  = 0 (Proved)

Letαandβaretherootsofax2+bx+b=0Soα+β=ba,αβ=ba,pq=αβpq+qp+ba=αβ+βα+ba=α+βαβ+ba=baba+ba=ba+ba=0(Proved)

Commented by MATHEMATICSAM last updated on 27/Dec/23

not (c/a) Equation is given ax^2  + bx + b = 0

notcaEquationisgivenax2+bx+b=0

Commented by Rasheed.Sindhi last updated on 27/Dec/23

Pl check carefully:  = ((α + β)/( (√(αβ)))) + (√(b/a))   = ((−(b/a))/( (√(c/a)))) + (√(b/a))

Plcheckcarefully:=α+βαβ+ba=baca+ba

Commented by Rasheed.Sindhi last updated on 27/Dec/23

Ok

Ok

Commented by Frix last updated on 27/Dec/23

(√(α/β))+(√(β/α))≠((α+β)/( (√(αβ))))  α=−4∧β=−9  (√(α/β))+(√(β/α))=((13)/6) but ((α+β)/( (√(αβ))))=−((13)/6)  α=−4∧β=9  (√(α/β))+(√(β/α))=((13)/6)i but ((α+β)/( (√(αβ))))=−(5/6)i

αβ+βαα+βαβα=4β=9αβ+βα=136butα+βαβ=136α=4β=9αβ+βα=136ibutα+βαβ=56i

Commented by Frix last updated on 27/Dec/23

You can ignore this but then it′s not  mathematics.

Youcanignorethisbutthenitsnotmathematics.

Commented by Rasheed.Sindhi last updated on 27/Dec/23

Sir, you′re very right!

Sir,youreveryright!

Commented by MATHEMATICSAM last updated on 27/Dec/23

Hmm right but for this question made  by basic algebric calculations it is correct.  Basically for negative numbers the square  root rules sometimes do not work.

Hmmrightbutforthisquestionmadebybasicalgebriccalculationsitiscorrect.Basicallyfornegativenumbersthesquarerootrulessometimesdonotwork.

Commented by Frix last updated on 27/Dec/23

If it′s wrong it′s wrong.  You′d have to restrict the values to get  a valid solution.

Ifitswrongitswrong.Youdhavetorestrictthevaluestogetavalidsolution.

Answered by Rasheed.Sindhi last updated on 27/Dec/23

Let α & β are roots  α+β=−b/a , αβ=c/a  (√(α/β)) +(√(β/α)) +(√(b/a)) =0  ((√α)/( (√β)))+((√β)/( (√α)))+(√(b/a)) =0  ((α+β)/( (√(αβ))))+(√(b/a)) =0  ((−b/a)/( (√(b/a))))+(√(b/a)) =0  ((((−b)/a)+(b/a))/( (√(b/a))))=0  (0/( (√(b/a))))=0  0=0 Proved

Letα&βarerootsα+β=b/a,αβ=c/aαβ+βα+ba=0αβ+βα+ba=0α+βαβ+ba=0b/aba+ba=0ba+baba=00ba=00=0Proved

Answered by Frix last updated on 26/Dec/23

(p/q)∈R^+  ⇒ (√(p/q))>0∧(√(q/p))>0  (c/a)∈R^+  ⇒ (√(c/a))>0  ⇒ (√(p/q))+(√(q/p))+(√(c/a))≠0    (p/q)=0 ⇒ (q/p) not defined    (p/q)∈R^−  ⇒ −(p/q)∈R^+  ⇒   ⇒(√(p/q))=i(√(−(p/q)))∧(√(q/p))=i(√(−(q/p))) ⇒  ⇒ (√(p/q))+(√(q/p))=iu∧u>0  (√(c/a))=v∨iv∧v∈R^+   ⇒ (√(p/q))+(√(q/p))+(√(c/a))≠0

pqR+pq>0qp>0caR+ca>0pq+qp+ca0pq=0qpnotdefinedpqRpqR+pq=ipqqp=iqppq+qp=iuu>0ca=vivvR+pq+qp+ca0

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