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Question Number 202873 by lorance last updated on 05/Jan/24

if x^4 −x−3=0  S & P are + & × real roots  what is value of 4P^2  +S^2 ?

ifx4x3=0S&Pare+&×realrootswhatisvalueof4P2+S2?

Commented by Frix last updated on 05/Jan/24

x^4 +px+q=0  x_1 =a  x_2 =b  x_(3, 4) =−((a+b)/2)±((√(3a^2 +2ab+3b^2 ))/2)i  ⇒  x^4 −(a+b)(a^2 +b^2 )x+a(a^2 +ab+b^2 )b=0  p=−(a+b)(a^2 +b^2 )∧q=a(a^2 +ab+b^2 )b  You ask for 4a^2 b^2 +(a+b)^2 =r  Let u=a+b∧v=ab  p=2uv−u^3   q=u^2 v−v^2   This doesn′t lead to any nice solution for  r=u^2 +4v^2  generally and also not with the  given p=−1∧q=−3:  2uv−u^3 =−1 ⇒ v=((u^3 −1)/(2u))  u^2 v−v^2 =−3 ⇒ u^6 +12u^3 −1=0 ⇒  u=±(√(((((√(257))/2)+(1/2)))^(1/3) −((((√(257))/2)−(1/2)))^(1/3) ))  r=u^4 +u^2 −2u+(1/u^2 )  No chance for something useable...

x4+px+q=0x1=ax2=bx3,4=a+b2±3a2+2ab+3b22ix4(a+b)(a2+b2)x+a(a2+ab+b2)b=0p=(a+b)(a2+b2)q=a(a2+ab+b2)bYouaskfor4a2b2+(a+b)2=rLetu=a+bv=abp=2uvu3q=u2vv2Thisdoesntleadtoanynicesolutionforr=u2+4v2generallyandalsonotwiththegivenp=1q=3:2uvu3=1v=u312uu2vv2=3u6+12u31=0u=±2572+1232572123r=u4+u22u+1u2Nochanceforsomethinguseable...

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