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Question Number 215845 by Tawa11 last updated on 19/Jan/25

1, 3, − 1, − 3, − 7,  − 21,  − 25,     ___,     ___,     ___    Next three terms??

1,3,1,3,7,21,25,___,___,___Nextthreeterms??

Commented by mr W last updated on 20/Jan/25

this is a game, not mathematics!!!  the game is to guess what an other  person thinks.   mathematically you can put any  three or thirty numbers and i can  prove that they are right or that they  are not right.

thisisagame,notmathematics!!!thegameistoguesswhatanotherpersonthinks.mathematicallyyoucanputanythreeorthirtynumbersandicanprovethattheyarerightorthattheyarenotright.

Commented by mr W last updated on 20/Jan/25

i say three numbers: 1, 2, 3. now   can you tell what are the next three  numbers?

isaythreenumbers:1,2,3.nowcanyoutellwhatarethenextthreenumbers?

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 20/Jan/25

Sir, can this sequence be solved?  If yes, please solve.                a_(n  +  1)    =   3a_n         ......  (i)         a_(n  +  1)    =   a_n   −  4     ....  (ii)  Find    a_n .

Sir,canthissequencebesolved?Ifyes,pleasesolve.an+1=3an......(i)an+1=an4....(ii)Findan.

Commented by mr W last updated on 20/Jan/25

you mean the question is  a_0 =1  a_(n+1) =3a_n , if n is even  a_(n+1) =a_n −4,  if n is odd  find a_n =?

youmeanthequestionisa0=1an+1=3an,ifnisevenan+1=an4,ifnisoddfindan=?

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 20/Jan/25

Yes sir. Exactly.

Yessir.Exactly.

Commented by mr W last updated on 20/Jan/25

 { ((a_(2k) =2−3^k )),((a_(2k+1) =3(2−3^k ))) :}

{a2k=23ka2k+1=3(23k)

Commented by mr W last updated on 20/Jan/25

we can also write in a single   formula as  a_n =3^(⌈(n/2)−⌊(n/2)⌋⌉) (2−3^(⌊(n/2)⌋) )

wecanalsowriteinasingleformulaasan=3n2n2(23n2)

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 20/Jan/25

What does the bracket signify sir.  And do you combine it sir.?

Whatdoesthebracketsignifysir.Anddoyoucombineitsir.?

Commented by mr W last updated on 20/Jan/25

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floor_and_ceiling_functions

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 20/Jan/25

Thanks sir.

Thankssir.

Answered by Tawa11 last updated on 19/Jan/25

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 19/Jan/25

1 × 3 = 3 first term by 3 to give second, then  3 - 4 = -1 to give the third.  -1 × 3 = -3 (4th)  -3 - 4 = -7 (5th)  -7 × 3 = -21 etc

1 × 3 = 3 first term by 3 to give second, then 3 - 4 = -1 to give the third. -1 × 3 = -3 (4th) -3 - 4 = -7 (5th) -7 × 3 = -21 etc

Answered by mr W last updated on 20/Jan/25

a_(2k+1) =3a_(2k) =3(a_(2k−1) −4)=3a_(2k−1) −12  let a_(2k+1) =Ap^(2k+1) +C  Ap^(2k+1) +C=3Ap^(2k−1) +3C−12  A(p^2 −3)p^(2k−1) =2C−12  ⇒p^2 −3=0 ⇒p=±(√3)  ⇒2C−12=0 ⇒C=6  a_(2k+1) =A((√3))^(2k+1) +6  a_1 =3a_0 =3×1=3=A((√3))^1 +6  ⇒A=−(√3)  ⇒a_(2k+1) =−(√3)×((√3))^(2k+1) +6=6−3^(k+1)   ⇒a_(2k+1) =3(2−3^k )  ⇒a_(2k) =2−3^k   or  a_(2k) =a_(2k−1) −4=3a_(2k−2) −4  let a_(2k) =Ap^(2k) +C  Ap^(2k) +C=3Ap^(2k−2) +3C−4  A(p^2 −3)p^(2k−2) =2C−4  ⇒p^2 −3=0 ⇒p=±(√3)  ⇒2C−4=0 ⇒C=2  a_(2k) =A((√3))^(2k) +2  a_0 =A((√3))^0 +2=1   ⇒A=−1  a_(2k) =2−3^k   we can put both into a single formula  a_n =3^(⌈(n/2)−⌊(n/2)⌋⌉) (2−3^(⌊(n/2)⌋) )

a2k+1=3a2k=3(a2k14)=3a2k112leta2k+1=Ap2k+1+CAp2k+1+C=3Ap2k1+3C12A(p23)p2k1=2C12p23=0p=±32C12=0C=6a2k+1=A(3)2k+1+6a1=3a0=3×1=3=A(3)1+6A=3a2k+1=3×(3)2k+1+6=63k+1a2k+1=3(23k)a2k=23kora2k=a2k14=3a2k24leta2k=Ap2k+CAp2k+C=3Ap2k2+3C4A(p23)p2k2=2C4p23=0p=±32C4=0C=2a2k=A(3)2k+2a0=A(3)0+2=1A=1a2k=23kwecanputbothintoasingleformulaan=3n2n2(23n2)

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 20/Jan/25

Wow, thanks sir.  It works for the sequence.

Wow,thankssir.Itworksforthesequence.

Commented by Tawa11 last updated on 23/Jan/25

Sir mrW, sorry for calling you everytime for  my question. Please help on the mechanics question  I posted sir. Thanks always sir.   Q215975

SirmrW,sorryforcallingyoueverytimeformyquestion.PleasehelponthemechanicsquestionIpostedsir.Thanksalwayssir.Q215975

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