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Question Number 41157 by ajfour last updated on 02/Aug/18

Commented by ajfour last updated on 02/Aug/18

If arc length is constant, equal  to l, and segment area a maximum,  find the radius.

Ifarclengthisconstant,equaltol,andsegmentareaamaximum,findtheradius.

Commented by MJS last updated on 02/Aug/18

I came to the conclusion that  r=(l/π) ⇒ area=(l^2 /(2π))  didn′t calculate it but it seems obvious to me

Icametotheconclusionthatr=lπarea=l22πdidntcalculateitbutitseemsobvioustome

Commented by ajfour last updated on 03/Aug/18

yes sir, semicircle.

yessir,semicircle.

Answered by MrW3 last updated on 02/Aug/18

θ=(l/r)  A=(r^2 /2)(θ−sin θ)=(r^2 /2)((l/r)−sin (l/r))=((lr)/2)−(r^2 /2) sin (l/r)  (dA/dr)=(l/2)−r sin (l/r)−(r^2 /2) cos (l/r) (−(l/r^2 ))  =(l/2)−r sin (l/r)+(l/2) cos (l/r)=0  ⇒(l/r)(1+cos (l/r))=2 sin (l/r)  ⇒((l/(2r))cos (l/(2r))−sin (l/(2r))) cos (l/(2r))=0  ⇒cos (l/(2r))=0⇒(l/(2r))=(π/2)⇒r=(l/π)  ⇒(l/(2r))cos (l/(2r))−sin (l/(2r))=0  ⇒tan (l/(2r))=(l/(2r))⇒no solution with (l/(2r))<π

θ=lrA=r22(θsinθ)=r22(lrsinlr)=lr2r22sinlrdAdr=l2rsinlrr22coslr(lr2)=l2rsinlr+l2coslr=0lr(1+coslr)=2sinlr(l2rcosl2rsinl2r)cosl2r=0cosl2r=0l2r=π2r=lπl2rcosl2rsinl2r=0tanl2r=l2rnosolutionwithl2r<π

Answered by tanmay.chaudhury50@gmail.com last updated on 03/Aug/18

l=rθ  segment area=((r^2 θ)/2)−(1/2)×b×h  sin(θ/2)=((b/2)/r)  b=2rsin(θ/2)  cos(θ/2)=(h/r)  h=rcos(θ/2)  segment area=((r^2 θ)/2) −(1/2).2rsin(θ/2).rcos(θ/2)           =((r^2 θ)/2)−(r^2 /2)sinθ=(r^2 /2)(θ−sinθ)  A=(r^2 /2)(θ−sinθ)  A=(l^2 /2)(((θ−sinθ)/θ^2 ))  (dA/dθ)=(l^2 /2){((θ^2 (1−cosθ)−(θ−sinθ)2θ)/θ^4 )}  (dA/dθ)=0=θ^2 −θ^2 cosθ−2θ^2 +2θsinθ  θ−θcosθ−2θ+2sinθ=0  2sinθ−θcosθ=θ  2sin(θ/2).cos(θ/2)−θ(2cos^2 (θ/2))=0  cos(θ/2)(2sin(θ/2)−2θcos(θ/2))=0  cos(θ/2)=0  θ=Π  tanθ−θ=0  segment area=(r^2 /2)(Π−sinΠ) =((Πr^2 )/2)atθ=Π    l=rθ  r=(l/θ) r=(l/Π)

l=rθsegmentarea=r2θ212×b×hsinθ2=b2rb=2rsinθ2cosθ2=hrh=rcosθ2segmentarea=r2θ212.2rsinθ2.rcosθ2=r2θ2r22sinθ=r22(θsinθ)A=r22(θsinθ)A=l22(θsinθθ2)dAdθ=l22{θ2(1cosθ)(θsinθ)2θθ4}dAdθ=0=θ2θ2cosθ2θ2+2θsinθθθcosθ2θ+2sinθ=02sinθθcosθ=θ2sinθ2.cosθ2θ(2cos2θ2)=0cosθ2(2sinθ22θcosθ2)=0cosθ2=0θ=Πtanθθ=0segmentarea=r22(ΠsinΠ)=Πr22atθ=Πl=rθr=lθr=lΠ

Commented by behi83417@gmail.com last updated on 03/Aug/18

there is a typo in line ≠4 from end.  cos(θ/2)=0⇒θ=π.

thereisatypoinline4fromend.cosθ2=0θ=π.

Commented by tanmay.chaudhury50@gmail.com last updated on 03/Aug/18

yes true...let me rectify...

yestrue...letmerectify...

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