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Question Number 44436 by ajfour last updated on 29/Sep/18

Commented by ajfour last updated on 29/Sep/18

Find R in terms of r.

FindRintermsofr.

Answered by MrW3 last updated on 29/Sep/18

Commented by MrW3 last updated on 29/Sep/18

assume eqn. of parabola is y=(x^2 /a)  y_C =x_C ^2 /a=r+r sin α=r(1+sin α)  tan α=(x_C /(2y_C ))=((ax_C ^2 )/(2ay_C ×x_C ))=(a/(2x_C ))=((√a)/(2(√(r(1+sin α)))))  4 tan^2  α=(a/(r(1+sin α)))  4r sin^2  α (1+sin α)=a(1−sin^2  α)  4 sin^3  α +(4+(a/r))sin^2  α−(a/r)=0  or with μ=(a/r)  4 sin^3  α +(4+μ)sin^2  α−μ=0    ...(i)    ⇒α=... in term of r  x_B =x_C +r cos α=(√(ar(1+sin α)))+r cos α    similarly:  x_E =(√(aR(1+sin β)))+R cos β  4 sin^3  β +(4+(a/R))sin^2  β−(a/R)=0  or with λ=(a/R)  4 sin^3  β +(4+λ)sin^2  β−λ=0   ...(ii)    (R−r)^2 +(x_E −x_B )^2 =(R+r)^2   x_E −x_B =2(√(Rr))  (√(aR(1+sin β)))+R cos β−(√(ar(1+sin α)))−r cos α=2(√(Rr))  (√(aR(1+sin β)))+R cos β−2(√(Rr))=(√(ar(1+sin α)))+r cos α  (√((1+sin β)/λ))+((cos β)/λ)−(2/(√(μλ)))=(√((1+sin α)/μ))+((cos α)/μ)   ...(iii)    three eqn. with three unknowns: α,β,λ  .....  for r=2, I found R≈8.842

assumeeqn.ofparabolaisy=x2ayC=xC2/a=r+rsinα=r(1+sinα)tanα=xC2yC=axC22ayC×xC=a2xC=a2r(1+sinα)4tan2α=ar(1+sinα)4rsin2α(1+sinα)=a(1sin2α)4sin3α+(4+ar)sin2αar=0orwithμ=ar4sin3α+(4+μ)sin2αμ=0...(i)α=...intermofrxB=xC+rcosα=ar(1+sinα)+rcosαsimilarly:xE=aR(1+sinβ)+Rcosβ4sin3β+(4+aR)sin2βaR=0orwithλ=aR4sin3β+(4+λ)sin2βλ=0...(ii)(Rr)2+(xExB)2=(R+r)2xExB=2RraR(1+sinβ)+Rcosβar(1+sinα)rcosα=2RraR(1+sinβ)+Rcosβ2Rr=ar(1+sinα)+rcosα1+sinβλ+cosβλ2μλ=1+sinαμ+cosαμ...(iii)threeeqn.withthreeunknowns:α,β,λ.....forr=2,IfoundR8.842

Commented by ajfour last updated on 29/Sep/18

great way sir, very nice, thanks.

greatwaysir,verynice,thanks.

Commented by ajfour last updated on 29/Sep/18

x_D −x_A =2(√(Rr))  for C, or F  x_F  and  x_D  are two values of b.  let   (dy/dx) = 2x = tan 𝛉     b−x = 𝛒sin 𝛉     y−𝛒 = 𝛒cos 𝛉     y = x^2   ________________________   4ρ(1+cos θ)= tan^2 θ  8ρ cos^2 (θ/2) = ((4tan^2 (θ/2))/((1−tan^2 (θ/2))^2 ))  let    tan (θ/2) = t , then    ((2ρ)/(1+t^2 )) = (t^2 /((1−t^2 )^2 ))  let  t^2 = z  ⇒    2ρ(1−z)^2  = z(1+z)      2ρz^2 −4ρz+2ρ = z+z^2      (2ρ−1)z^2 −(4ρ+1)z+2ρ = 0  ⇒ z= t^2  = ((4ρ−1±(√((4ρ+1)^2 −8ρ(2ρ−1))))/(2(2ρ−1)))  ⇒  t^2 =((4ρ−1−(√(1+16ρ)))/(4ρ−2))   Now   b = ((tan θ)/2)+ρ sin θ             = (t/(1−t^2 ))+((2ρt)/(1+t^2 ))    for  b_1  , ρ = r     for b_2  , ρ = R  (in their expressions in terms of t )      b_2 −b_1 = 2(√(Rr))  ....

xDxA=2RrforC,orFxFandxDaretwovaluesofb.letdydx=2x=tanθbx=ρsinθyρ=ρcosθy=x2________________________4ρ(1+cosθ)=tan2θ8ρcos2θ2=4tan2θ2(1tan2θ2)2lettanθ2=t,then2ρ1+t2=t2(1t2)2lett2=z2ρ(1z)2=z(1+z)2ρz24ρz+2ρ=z+z2(2ρ1)z2(4ρ+1)z+2ρ=0z=t2=4ρ1±(4ρ+1)28ρ(2ρ1)2(2ρ1)t2=4ρ11+16ρ4ρ2Nowb=tanθ2+ρsinθ=t1t2+2ρt1+t2forb1,ρ=rforb2,ρ=R(intheirexpressionsintermsoft)b2b1=2Rr....

Commented by MrW3 last updated on 29/Sep/18

Finding a direct expression for θ in  term of R (and r), that′s great sir!

FindingadirectexpressionforθintermofR(andr),thatsgreatsir!

Commented by ajfour last updated on 29/Sep/18

i have changed it entirely sir,  its all just the same (parametric).  probably, implicit as well.

ihavechangeditentirelysir,itsalljustthesame(parametric).probably,implicitaswell.

Commented by behi83417@gmail.com last updated on 29/Sep/18

nice work done!thanks master  sir mrW3.

niceworkdone!thanksmastersirmrW3.

Commented by behi83417@gmail.com last updated on 29/Sep/18

sir Ajfour! great question & also  nice prof.thanks for your nice  viewpoint.

sirAjfour!greatquestion&alsoniceprof.thanksforyourniceviewpoint.

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