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Question Number 50561 by ajfour last updated on 17/Dec/18

Commented by ajfour last updated on 17/Dec/18

Find radius r of dashed circles  (all equal), given n and R.

Findradiusrofdashedcircles(allequal),givennandR.

Answered by tanmay.chaudhury50@gmail.com last updated on 18/Dec/18

joining the centres of n circles make a[circle  of radius =R+r  join each centre of  circle of radius r with  centre of circle of radius R  (n)θ=2π  θ=((2π)/n)  cosθ=(((R+r)^2 +(R+r)^2 −(2r)^2 )/(2(R+r)(R+r)))  (2r)^2 =2(R+r)^2 −2(R+r)^2 cosθ  (2r)^2 =2(R+r)^2 [1−cosθ]  (2r)^2 =4(R+r)^2 sin^2 ((θ/2))  2r=2(R+r)sin((θ/2))    r=(R+r)sin((θ/2))  r−rsin((θ/2))=Rsin((θ/2))  r=((Rsin((θ/2)))/(1−sin((θ/2))))=((Rsin((π/n)))/(1−sin((π/n))))  pls check..

joiningthecentresofncirclesmakea[circleofradius=R+rjoineachcentreofcircleofradiusrwithcentreofcircleofradiusR(n)θ=2πθ=2πncosθ=(R+r)2+(R+r)2(2r)22(R+r)(R+r)(2r)2=2(R+r)22(R+r)2cosθ(2r)2=2(R+r)2[1cosθ](2r)2=4(R+r)2sin2(θ2)2r=2(R+r)sin(θ2)r=(R+r)sin(θ2)rrsin(θ2)=Rsin(θ2)r=Rsin(θ2)1sin(θ2)=Rsin(πn)1sin(πn)plscheck..

Commented by ajfour last updated on 18/Dec/18

Thanks Tanmay Sir.

ThanksTanmaySir.

Commented by tanmay.chaudhury50@gmail.com last updated on 18/Dec/18

thank you sir...ldt me rectify..

thankyousir...ldtmerectify..

Answered by mr W last updated on 17/Dec/18

let λ=(r/R)  sin θ=(r/(r+R))=(λ/(1+λ))  ⇒λ=((sin θ)/(1−sin θ))=(1/(1−sin θ))−1  2nθ=2π  ⇒θ=(π/n)  ⇒λ=(1/(1−sin (π/n)))−1  ============  λ=(1/(1−sin (π/n)))−1≤1  sin (π/n)≤(1/2)  (π/n)≤(π/6)  ⇒n≥6

letλ=rRsinθ=rr+R=λ1+λλ=sinθ1sinθ=11sinθ12nθ=2πθ=πnλ=11sinπn1============λ=11sinπn11sinπn12πnπ6n6

Commented by mr W last updated on 17/Dec/18

I have noticed it, but I can not solve it.

Ihavenoticedit,butIcannotsolveit.

Commented by ajfour last updated on 17/Dec/18

Good Sir, Thanks.  how about radius of next layer  circles ?!

GoodSir,Thanks.howaboutradiusofnextlayercircles?!

Commented by mr W last updated on 17/Dec/18

n=5: r_5 =R((1/(1−sin (π/5)))−1)=(((√(10+10(√5)))/5)−1)R  n=4: r_4 =R((1/(1−sin (π/4)))−1)=(1+2(√2))R  n=3: r_3 =R((1/(1−sin (π/3)))−1)=(3+2(√3))R

n=5:r5=R(11sinπ51)=(10+10551)Rn=4:r4=R(11sinπ41)=(1+22)Rn=3:r3=R(11sinπ31)=(3+23)R

Commented by ajfour last updated on 17/Dec/18

next LAYER  Circles, Sir ?

nextLAYERCircles,Sir?

Commented by mr W last updated on 18/Dec/18

let s=radius of circles from next layer  (√((s+r)^2 −s^2 ))+R+r=(s/(tan θ))=(s/(tan (π/n)))  (√(r(2s+r)))=(s/(tan (π/n)))−R−r  (s^2 /(tan^2  (π/n)))−2[(((R+r))/(tan (π/n)))+r]s+R(R+2r)=0  s=(((((R+r))/(tan (π/n)))+r+(√([(((R+r))/(tan (π/n)))+r]^2 −((R(R+2r))/(tan^2  (π/n))))))/(1/(tan^2  (π/n))))  ⇒s=tan (π/n) {R+(1+tan (π/n))r+(√([R+(1+tan (π/n))r]^2 −R(R+2r)))}

lets=radiusofcirclesfromnextlayer(s+r)2s2+R+r=stanθ=stanπnr(2s+r)=stanπnRrs2tan2πn2[(R+r)tanπn+r]s+R(R+2r)=0s=(R+r)tanπn+r+[(R+r)tanπn+r]2R(R+2r)tan2πn1tan2πns=tanπn{R+(1+tanπn)r+[R+(1+tanπn)r]2R(R+2r)}

Commented by ajfour last updated on 17/Dec/18

Heights! so quick sir, some typos,  i guess..

Heights!soquicksir,sometypos,iguess..

Commented by ajfour last updated on 17/Dec/18

Commented by mr W last updated on 17/Dec/18

no! not such an integer n exists.  n≈8.84

no!notsuchanintegernexists.n8.84

Commented by ajfour last updated on 17/Dec/18

thanks sir.

thankssir.

Answered by Smail last updated on 18/Dec/18

θ=((2π)/n)  sin((θ/2))=(r/(R+r))⇔r(1−sin((θ/2))=Rsin((θ/2))  r=((Rsin((θ/2)))/(1−sin((θ/2))))=(R/(csc((θ/2))−1))  r=(R/(csc((π/n))−1))  When n=6  ,  r should equal  R  r_6 =(R/(csc((π/6))−1))=(R/(2−1))=R

θ=2πnsin(θ2)=rR+rr(1sin(θ2)=Rsin(θ2)r=Rsin(θ2)1sin(θ2)=Rcsc(θ2)1r=Rcsc(πn)1Whenn=6,rshouldequalRr6=Rcsc(π6)1=R21=R

Commented by Smail last updated on 18/Dec/18

Commented by Smail last updated on 18/Dec/18

Commented by Smail last updated on 18/Dec/18

n=6  so r=R

n=6sor=R

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