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Question Number 63108 by ajfour last updated on 29/Jun/19

Commented by ajfour last updated on 29/Jun/19

Find x_A  in terms of a,b,s .       s_(min) ≤s≤s_(max)  .  a,b are parameters of ellipse  while s is side length of △_(equilateral) .

FindxAintermsofa,b,s.sminssmax.a,bareparametersofellipsewhilesissidelengthofequilateral.

Answered by mr W last updated on 02/Jul/19

R=(s/(√3))=radius of circumcircle  M(h,k)=centroid and circumcenter  let p=(h/a), q=(k/b), α=(R/a)=(s/((√3)a)), β=(R/b)=(s/((√3)b))  x_A =h+R cos θ=a((h/a)+(R/a) cos θ)=a(p+α cos θ)  y_A =k+R sin θ=b((k/b)+(R/b) sin θ)=b(q+β sin θ)  (x_A ^2 /a^2 )+(y_A ^2 /b^2 )=1  ⇒(p+α cos θ)^2 +(q+β sin θ)^2 =1  ⇒p^2 +2αp cos θ+α^2  cos^2  θ+q^2 +2βq sin θ+β^2  sin^2  θ=1   ...(i)    x_B =a[p+α cos (θ+((2π)/3))]  y_B =b[q+β sin (θ+((2π)/3))]  ⇒[p+α cos (θ+((2π)/3))]^2 +[q+β sin (θ+((2π)/3))]^2 =1  ⇒[p−(α/2)(cos θ+(√3) sin θ)]^2 +[q−(β/2)(sin θ−(√3)cos θ)]^2 =1  ⇒p^2 −αp (cos θ+(√3) sin θ)+(α^2 /4)(cos θ+(√3) sin θ)^2 +q^2 −βq (sin θ−(√3) cos θ)+(β^2 /4) (sin θ−(√3) cos θ)^2 =1   ...(ii)    x_C =a[p+α cos (θ−((2π)/3))]  y_C =b[q+β sin (θ−((2π)/3))]  ⇒[p+α cos (θ−((2π)/3))]^2 +[q+β sin (θ−((2π)/3))]^2 =1  ⇒[p−(α/2)(cos θ−(√3) sin θ)]^2 +[q−(β/2)(sin θ+(√3)cos θ)]^2 =1  ⇒p^2 −αp (cos θ−(√3) sin θ)+(α^2 /4)(cos θ−(√3) sin θ)^2 +q^2 −βq (sin θ+(√3)cos θ)+(β^2 /4)(sin θ+(√3)cos θ)^2 =1   ...(iii)    (i)−(ii):  ⇒α(3cos θ+(√3)sin θ)p+(1/4)α^2 (3cos θ+(√3)sin θ)(cos θ−(√3)sin θ)+β(3sin θ−(√3)cos θ)q+(1/4)β^2 (3 sin θ−(√3)cos θ)(sin θ+(√3)cos θ)=0  ⇒4α(3cos θ+(√3)sin θ)p+4β(3sin θ−(√3)cos θ)q=−(α^2 −β^2 )(3cos 2θ−(√3)sin 2θ)     ...(I)  (i)−(iii):  ⇒αp(2cos θ−(√3)sin θ)+(1/4)α^2 (3cos θ−(√3)sin θ)(cos θ+(√3)sin θ)+βq(3sin θ+(√3)cos θ)+(1/4)β^2 (3sin θ+(√3)cos θ)(sin θ−(√3)cos θ)=0  ⇒4α(3cos θ−(√3)sin θ)p+4β(3sin θ+(√3)cos θ)q=−(α^2 −β^2 )(3cos 2θ+(√3)sin 2θ)     ...(II)

R=s3=radiusofcircumcircleM(h,k)=centroidandcircumcenterletp=ha,q=kb,α=Ra=s3a,β=Rb=s3bxA=h+Rcosθ=a(ha+Racosθ)=a(p+αcosθ)yA=k+Rsinθ=b(kb+Rbsinθ)=b(q+βsinθ)xA2a2+yA2b2=1(p+αcosθ)2+(q+βsinθ)2=1p2+2αpcosθ+α2cos2θ+q2+2βqsinθ+β2sin2θ=1...(i)xB=a[p+αcos(θ+2π3)]yB=b[q+βsin(θ+2π3)][p+αcos(θ+2π3)]2+[q+βsin(θ+2π3)]2=1[pα2(cosθ+3sinθ)]2+[qβ2(sinθ3cosθ)]2=1p2αp(cosθ+3sinθ)+α24(cosθ+3sinθ)2+q2βq(sinθ3cosθ)+β24(sinθ3cosθ)2=1...(ii)xC=a[p+αcos(θ2π3)]yC=b[q+βsin(θ2π3)][p+αcos(θ2π3)]2+[q+βsin(θ2π3)]2=1[pα2(cosθ3sinθ)]2+[qβ2(sinθ+3cosθ)]2=1p2αp(cosθ3sinθ)+α24(cosθ3sinθ)2+q2βq(sinθ+3cosθ)+β24(sinθ+3cosθ)2=1...(iii)(i)(ii):α(3cosθ+3sinθ)p+14α2(3cosθ+3sinθ)(cosθ3sinθ)+β(3sinθ3cosθ)q+14β2(3sinθ3cosθ)(sinθ+3cosθ)=04α(3cosθ+3sinθ)p+4β(3sinθ3cosθ)q=(α2β2)(3cos2θ3sin2θ)...(I)(i)(iii):αp(2cosθ3sinθ)+14α2(3cosθ3sinθ)(cosθ+3sinθ)+βq(3sinθ+3cosθ)+14β2(3sinθ+3cosθ)(sinθ3cosθ)=04α(3cosθ3sinθ)p+4β(3sinθ+3cosθ)q=(α2β2)(3cos2θ+3sin2θ)...(II)

Commented by mr W last updated on 06/Jul/19

(3cos θ+(√3)sin θ)αp+(3sin θ−(√3)cos θ)βq=−((α^2 −β^2 )/4)(3cos 2θ−(√3)sin 2θ)     ...(i)  (3cos θ−(√3)sin θ)αp+(3sin θ+(√3)cos θ)βq=−((α^2 −β^2 )/4)(3cos 2θ+(√3)sin 2θ)     ...(ii)  D=(3cos θ+(√3)sin θ)(3sin θ+(√3)cos θ)−(3cos θ−(√3)sin θ)(3sin θ−(√3)cos θ)  =(6sin 2θ+3(√3))−(6sin 2θ−3(√3))  =6(√3)  −(4/(α^2 −β^2 ))(αp)D=−(3sin θ−(√3)cos θ)(3cos 2θ+(√3)sin 2θ)+(3sin θ+(√3)cos θ)(3cos 2θ−(√3)sin 2θ)  =6(√3)(cos θcos 2θ−sin θsin 2θ)  =6(√3)cos 3θ  ⇒αp=−((α^2 −β^2 )/4)cos 3θ  −(4/(α^2 −β^2 ))(βq)D=−(3cos θ−(√3)sin θ)(3cos 2θ−(√3)sin 2θ)+(3cos θ+(√3)sin θ)(3cos 2θ+(√3)sin 2θ)  =6(√3)(sin θcos 2θ+cos θsin 2θ)  =6(√3)sin 3θ  ⇒βq=−((α^2 −β^2 )/4)sin 3θ  put them into   (p+α cos θ)^2 +(q+β sin θ)^2 =1  we get  b^2 (cos θ+((a^2 −b^2 )/(4b^2 ))cos 3θ)^2 +a^2 (sin θ+((a^2 −b^2 )/(4a^2 ))sin 3θ)^2 =((3a^2 b^2 )/s^2 )  b^2 cos^2  θ[1+(((a^2 −b^2 ))/b^2 )(cos^2  θ−(3/4))]^2 +a^2 sin^2  θ[1+(((a^2 −b^2 ))/a^2 )((3/4)−sin^2  θ)]^2 =((3a^2 b^2 )/s^2 )  b^2 (cos^2  θ−(1/2)+(1/2))[1+(((a^2 −b^2 ))/b^2 )(cos^2  θ−(1/2)−(1/4))]^2 +a^2 ((1/2)−cos^2  θ+(1/2))[1+(((a^2 −b^2 ))/a^2 )(cos^2  θ−(1/2)+(1/4))]^2 =((3a^2 b^2 )/s^2 )  let Φ=cos^2  θ−(1/2)  b^2 (Φ+(1/2))[1+(((a^2 −b^2 ))/b^2 )(Φ−(1/4))]^2 +a^2 ((1/2)−Φ)[1+(((a^2 −b^2 ))/a^2 )(Φ+(1/4))]^2 =((3a^2 b^2 )/s^2 )  a^2 (2Φ+1)[4b^2 +(a^2 −b^2 )(4Φ−1)]^2 +b^2 (1−2Φ)[4a^2 +(a^2 −b^2 )(4Φ+1)]^2 =((96a^4 b^4 )/s^2 )  32(a^2 −b^2 )^3 Φ^3 −6(a^2 −b^2 )^3 Φ+(a^2 +b^2 )[(a^2 +b^2 )^2 +12a^2 b^2 ]−((96a^4 b^4 )/s^2 )=0  [(a^2 −b^2 )Φ]^3 −(3/(16))(a^2 −b^2 )^2 [(a^2 −b^2 )Φ]+{(1/(32))(a^2 +b^2 )[(a^2 +b^2 )^2 +12a^2 b^2 ]−((3a^4 b^4 )/s^2 )}=0  with μ=(b/a)<1, ξ=(s/a)  [(1−μ^2 )Φ]^3 −(3/(16))(1−μ^2 )^2 [(1−μ^2 )Φ]+{(1/(32))(1+μ^2 )[(1+μ^2 )^2 +12μ^2 ]−((3μ^4 )/ξ^2 )}=0  with  z=(1−μ^2 )Φ=(1−μ^2 )(cos^2  θ−(1/2))  u=(1/(16))(1−μ^2 )^2   v=(1/(64))(1+μ^2 )[(1+μ^2 )^2 +12μ^2 ]−((3μ^4 )/(2ξ^2 ))  ⇒z^3 −3uz+2v=0  Δ=−u^3 +v^2 <0  z=2(√u) sin ((1/3)sin^(−1) (v/(√u^3 ))+((2nπ)/3))  ⇒θ=cos^(−1) (√((1/2)+((2(√μ))/(1−μ^2 )) sin ((1/3)sin^(−1) (v/(√u^3 ))+((2nπ)/3))))

(3cosθ+3sinθ)αp+(3sinθ3cosθ)βq=α2β24(3cos2θ3sin2θ)...(i)(3cosθ3sinθ)αp+(3sinθ+3cosθ)βq=α2β24(3cos2θ+3sin2θ)...(ii)D=(3cosθ+3sinθ)(3sinθ+3cosθ)(3cosθ3sinθ)(3sinθ3cosθ)=(6sin2θ+33)(6sin2θ33)=634α2β2(αp)D=(3sinθ3cosθ)(3cos2θ+3sin2θ)+(3sinθ+3cosθ)(3cos2θ3sin2θ)=63(cosθcos2θsinθsin2θ)=63cos3θαp=α2β24cos3θ4α2β2(βq)D=(3cosθ3sinθ)(3cos2θ3sin2θ)+(3cosθ+3sinθ)(3cos2θ+3sin2θ)=63(sinθcos2θ+cosθsin2θ)=63sin3θβq=α2β24sin3θputtheminto(p+αcosθ)2+(q+βsinθ)2=1wegetb2(cosθ+a2b24b2cos3θ)2+a2(sinθ+a2b24a2sin3θ)2=3a2b2s2b2cos2θ[1+(a2b2)b2(cos2θ34)]2+a2sin2θ[1+(a2b2)a2(34sin2θ)]2=3a2b2s2b2(cos2θ12+12)[1+(a2b2)b2(cos2θ1214)]2+a2(12cos2θ+12)[1+(a2b2)a2(cos2θ12+14)]2=3a2b2s2letΦ=cos2θ12b2(Φ+12)[1+(a2b2)b2(Φ14)]2+a2(12Φ)[1+(a2b2)a2(Φ+14)]2=3a2b2s2a2(2Φ+1)[4b2+(a2b2)(4Φ1)]2+b2(12Φ)[4a2+(a2b2)(4Φ+1)]2=96a4b4s232(a2b2)3Φ36(a2b2)3Φ+(a2+b2)[(a2+b2)2+12a2b2]96a4b4s2=0[(a2b2)Φ]3316(a2b2)2[(a2b2)Φ]+{132(a2+b2)[(a2+b2)2+12a2b2]3a4b4s2}=0withμ=ba<1,ξ=sa[(1μ2)Φ]3316(1μ2)2[(1μ2)Φ]+{132(1+μ2)[(1+μ2)2+12μ2]3μ4ξ2}=0withz=(1μ2)Φ=(1μ2)(cos2θ12)u=116(1μ2)2v=164(1+μ2)[(1+μ2)2+12μ2]3μ42ξ2z33uz+2v=0Δ=u3+v2<0z=2usin(13sin1vu3+2nπ3)θ=cos112+2μ1μ2sin(13sin1vu3+2nπ3)

Commented by ajfour last updated on 03/Jul/19

Now its beauty, Sir!  Does it imply, only one real root for  cos^2 θ  , a,b,s being given.

Nowitsbeauty,Sir!Doesitimply,onlyonerealrootforcos2θ,a,b,sbeinggiven.

Commented by ajfour last updated on 02/Jul/19

your faith is beyond all realms!

yourfaithisbeyondallrealms!

Commented by ajfour last updated on 02/Jul/19

Please explain what is D and  how you express it, Sir..

PleaseexplainwhatisDandhowyouexpressit,Sir..

Commented by mr W last updated on 02/Jul/19

thank you for following sir!  with D i just don′t want to write  too much when solving the equation  system.

thankyouforfollowingsir!withDijustdontwanttowritetoomuchwhensolvingtheequationsystem.

Commented by mr W last updated on 02/Jul/19

Commented by mr W last updated on 03/Jul/19

((3μ^4 )/ξ^2 )=(1−μ^2 )^3 Φ^3 −(3/(16))(1−μ^2 )^3 Φ+(1/(32))(1+μ^2 )^3 +(3/8)μ^2 (1+μ^2 )  (d/dΦ)(((3μ^4 )/ξ^2 ))=0  ⇒3Φ^2 −(3/(16))=0  ⇒Φ=±(1/4) ⇒cos^2  θ=±(1/4)+(1/2)⇒cos θ=±((√3)/2),±(1/2)  ⇒max. s or min. s at θ=((nπ)/2)±(π/6)  with Φ=(1/4):  ((3μ^4 )/ξ^2 )=−(1/(32))(1−μ^2 )^3 +(1/(32))(1+μ^2 )^3 +(3/8)μ^2 (1+μ^2 )  ((3μ^2 )/ξ^2 )=(((3+μ^2 )^2 )/(16))  ⇒ξ^2 =((48μ^2 )/((3+μ^2 )^2 ))  ⇒ξ_(max) =((4(√3)μ)/(3+μ^2 ))=(s_(max) /a)  with Φ=−(1/4):  ((3μ^4 )/ξ^2 )=(1/(32))(1−μ^2 )^3 +(1/(32))(1+μ^2 )^3 +(3/8)μ^2 (1+μ^2 )  ((3μ^4 )/ξ^2 )=(((1+3μ^2 )^2 )/(16))  ⇒ξ^2 =((48μ^4 )/((1+3μ^2 )^2 ))  ⇒ξ_(min) =((4(√3)μ^2 )/(1+3μ^2 ))=(s_(min) /a)

3μ4ξ2=(1μ2)3Φ3316(1μ2)3Φ+132(1+μ2)3+38μ2(1+μ2)ddΦ(3μ4ξ2)=03Φ2316=0Φ=±14cos2θ=±14+12cosθ=±32,±12max.sormin.satθ=nπ2±π6withΦ=14:3μ4ξ2=132(1μ2)3+132(1+μ2)3+38μ2(1+μ2)3μ2ξ2=(3+μ2)216ξ2=48μ2(3+μ2)2ξmax=43μ3+μ2=smaxawithΦ=14:3μ4ξ2=132(1μ2)3+132(1+μ2)3+38μ2(1+μ2)3μ4ξ2=(1+3μ2)216ξ2=48μ4(1+3μ2)2ξmin=43μ21+3μ2=smina

Answered by ajfour last updated on 06/Jul/19

let mid-point of BC be M(h,k).  slope of AM be m=tan θ  x_A =h+((s(√3))/2)cos θ,   y_A =k+((s(√3))/2)sin θ  x_B =h−(s/2)sin θ  ,  y_B =k+(s/2)cos θ  x_C =h+(s/2)sin θ  ,  y_C =k−(s/2)cos θ  As B,C  lie on ellipse      (x_B ^2 /a^2 )+(y_B ^2 /b^2 )=1  ,  (x_C ^2 /a^2 )+(y_C ^2 /b^2 )=1  subtracting  (((x_B −x_C )(x_B +x_C ))/a^2 )+(((y_B −y_C )(y_B +y_C ))/b^2 )=0  ⇒ −2b^2 shsin θ+2a^2 skcos θ=0  ⇒   k=((b^2 h)/a^2 )tan θ  similarly as A,B lie on ellipse  ⇒ ((b^2 s)/2)((√3)cos θ+sin θ)[2h+(s/2)((√3)cos θ−sin θ)]   +((a^2 s)/2)((√3)sin θ−cos θ)[2k+(s/2)((√3)sin θ+cos θ)]=0  ⇒  2hb^2 ((√3)cos θ+sin θ)  +2b^2 h(((sin θ)/(cos θ)))((√3)sin θ−cos θ)  +(s/2){b^2 (3cos^2 θ−sin^2 θ)+a^2 (3sin^2 θ−cos^2 θ)}=0  ⇒ h=−((scos θ)/(4(√3)b^2 )){a^2 (3sin^2 θ−cos^2 θ)+b^2 (3cos^2 θ−sin^2 θ)}  And as A lies on ellipse,     b^2 (h+((s(√3))/2)cos θ)^2 +a^2 (((b^2 h)/a^2 )tan θ+((s(√3))/2)sin θ)^2 =a^2 b^2   ⇒ b^2 h^2 +b^2 sh(√3)cos θ+((3b^2 s^2 cos^2 θ)/4)     +((b^4 h^2 tan^2 θ)/a^2 )+b^2 sh(√3)sin θtan θ     +((3a^2 s^2 sin^2 θ)/4)=a^2 b^2   ⇒ b^2 h^2 (1+(b^2 /a^2 )tan^2 θ)+((b^2 sh(√3))/(cos θ))      +((3s^2 )/4)(b^2 cos^2 θ+a^2 sin^2 θ)=a^2 b^2   ⇒ (b^2 /a^2 )(a^2 cos^2 θ+b^2 sin^2 θ)(h^2 /(cos^2 θ))    +(b^2 s(√3))(h/(cos θ))+(3/4)s^2 (b^2 cos^2 θ+a^2 sin^2 θ)          −a^2 b^2 =0  let  cos θ=t , then  (b^2 /a^2 )((h/t))^2 {b^2 +(a^2 −b^2 )t^2 }+b^2 s(√3)((h/t))     +((3s^2 )/4)[a^2 −(a^2 −b^2 )t^2 ] −a^2 b^2  = 0  where   h=−((scos θ)/(4(√3)b^2 )){a^2 (3sin^2 θ−cos^2 θ)+b^2 (3cos^2 θ−sin^2 θ)}  ⇒ (h/t)=−(s/(4(√3)b^2 )){3a^2 −b^2 −4(a^2 −b^2 )t^2 }  Now  (b^2 /a^2 )((s^2 /(48b^4 ))){b^2 +(a^2 −b^2 )t^2 }{3a^2 −b^2 −4(a^2 −b^2 )t^2 }^2    −b^2 s(√3)((s/(4(√3)b^2 ))){3a^2 −b^2 −4(a^2 −b^2 )t^2 }     +((3s^2 )/4)[a^2 −(a^2 −b^2 )t^2 ] −a^2 b^2  = 0   let   (a^2 −b^2 )t^2 =v  (s^2 /(48a^2 b^2 ))(b^2 +v)(3a^2 −b^2 −4v)^2               +(s^2 /4)(b^2 +v)−a^2 b^2 =0  let  b^2 +v= y  ⇒ ((s^2 /(48a^2 b^2 )))y{3(a^2 +b^2 )−4y}^2                             +((s^2 y)/4)−a^2 b^2  = 0  _________________________  ⇒ s^2 y{[3(a^2 +b^2 )−4y]^2 +12a^2 b^2 }                       −48a^4 b^4 =0  _________________________

letmidpointofBCbeM(h,k).slopeofAMbem=tanθxA=h+s32cosθ,yA=k+s32sinθxB=hs2sinθ,yB=k+s2cosθxC=h+s2sinθ,yC=ks2cosθAsB,ClieonellipsexB2a2+yB2b2=1,xC2a2+yC2b2=1subtracting(xBxC)(xB+xC)a2+(yByC)(yB+yC)b2=02b2shsinθ+2a2skcosθ=0k=b2ha2tanθsimilarlyasA,Blieonellipseb2s2(3cosθ+sinθ)[2h+s2(3cosθsinθ)]+a2s2(3sinθcosθ)[2k+s2(3sinθ+cosθ)]=02hb2(3cosθ+sinθ)+2b2h(sinθcosθ)(3sinθcosθ)+s2{b2(3cos2θsin2θ)+a2(3sin2θcos2θ)}=0h=scosθ43b2{a2(3sin2θcos2θ)+b2(3cos2θsin2θ)}AndasAliesonellipse,b2(h+s32cosθ)2+a2(b2ha2tanθ+s32sinθ)2=a2b2b2h2+b2sh3cosθ+3b2s2cos2θ4+b4h2tan2θa2+b2sh3sinθtanθ+3a2s2sin2θ4=a2b2b2h2(1+b2a2tan2θ)+b2sh3cosθ+3s24(b2cos2θ+a2sin2θ)=a2b2b2a2(a2cos2θ+b2sin2θ)h2cos2θ+(b2s3)hcosθ+34s2(b2cos2θ+a2sin2θ)a2b2=0letcosθ=t,thenb2a2(ht)2{b2+(a2b2)t2}+b2s3(ht)+3s24[a2(a2b2)t2]a2b2=0whereh=scosθ43b2{a2(3sin2θcos2θ)+b2(3cos2θsin2θ)}ht=s43b2{3a2b24(a2b2)t2}Nowb2a2(s248b4){b2+(a2b2)t2}{3a2b24(a2b2)t2}2b2s3(s43b2){3a2b24(a2b2)t2}+3s24[a2(a2b2)t2]a2b2=0let(a2b2)t2=vs248a2b2(b2+v)(3a2b24v)2+s24(b2+v)a2b2=0letb2+v=y(s248a2b2)y{3(a2+b2)4y}2+s2y4a2b2=0_________________________s2y{[3(a2+b2)4y]2+12a2b2}48a4b4=0_________________________

Commented by mr W last updated on 01/Jul/19

great solution sir!

greatsolutionsir!

Commented by mr W last updated on 03/Jul/19

sir, please check:  s_0 ^2  =((48r^4 a^2 )/((1+r^2 )[(1+r^2 )^2 +3])) ⇒should be min.s  s_(min) =((4(√3)b)/(3+((b^2 /a^2 )))) ⇒ should be max. s.

sir,pleasecheck:s02=48r4a2(1+r2)[(1+r2)2+3]shouldbemin.ssmin=43b3+(b2a2)shouldbemax.s.

Commented by mr W last updated on 03/Jul/19

an other question is:  why (b/a)∈(0,(1/(√3))] ? not (b/a)∈(0,1) ?  (assume b<a)

anotherquestionis:whyba(0,13]?notba(0,1)?(assumeb<a)

Commented by mr W last updated on 06/Jul/19

i found out:   max. s is always at θ=30° or 90°  min. s is always at θ=0° or 60°

ifoundout:max.sisalwaysatθ=30°or90°min.sisalwaysatθ=0°or60°

Commented by mr W last updated on 03/Jul/19

with r≤(1/(√3)) something must be wrong.  in fact there is solution for any  0<r<1.  eg. a=4, b=3, ⇒r=0.75>(1/(√3)):  at θ=0°: s=5.8344  at θ=30°: s=5.8004  at θ=45°: s=5.8172  with θ as meant in your solution.

withr13somethingmustbewrong.infactthereissolutionforany0<r<1.eg.a=4,b=3,r=0.75>13:atθ=0°:s=5.8344atθ=30°:s=5.8004atθ=45°:s=5.8172withθasmeantinyoursolution.

Commented by mr W last updated on 06/Jul/19

Commented by mr W last updated on 06/Jul/19

this is the θ in my solution.

thisistheθinmysolution.

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