Question and Answers Forum

All Questions      Topic List

Others Questions

Previous in All Question      Next in All Question      

Previous in Others      Next in Others      

Question Number 63984 by Rio Michael last updated on 11/Jul/19

is it true?    e^(lnx) = x?  if so then  (d/dx)(e^(lnx) )=?

$${is}\:{it}\:{true}? \\ $$$$\:\:{e}^{{lnx}} =\:{x}? \\ $$$${if}\:{so}\:{then}\:\:\frac{{d}}{{dx}}\left({e}^{{lnx}} \right)=? \\ $$

Commented by mathmax by abdo last updated on 12/Jul/19

yes its true if x real   if x=z complex  we have z =r e^(iθ)  ⇒  ln(z) =ln(r)+i(θ +2kπ) ⇒e^(ln(z))  =r e^(i(θ +2kπ))  =re^(iθ)  =z  the relation is true also in C.

$${yes}\:{its}\:{true}\:{if}\:{x}\:{real}\:\:\:{if}\:{x}={z}\:{complex}\:\:{we}\:{have}\:{z}\:={r}\:{e}^{{i}\theta} \:\Rightarrow \\ $$$${ln}\left({z}\right)\:={ln}\left({r}\right)+{i}\left(\theta\:+\mathrm{2}{k}\pi\right)\:\Rightarrow{e}^{{ln}\left({z}\right)} \:={r}\:{e}^{{i}\left(\theta\:+\mathrm{2}{k}\pi\right)} \:={re}^{{i}\theta} \:={z} \\ $$$${the}\:{relation}\:{is}\:{true}\:{also}\:{in}\:{C}. \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 11/Jul/19

yes! e^(ln x) =x!  ((d(e^(ln x) ))/dx)=e^(ln x) ×((d(ln x))/dx)=e^(ln x) ×(1/x)=x×(1/x)=1

$${yes}!\:{e}^{\mathrm{ln}\:{x}} ={x}! \\ $$$$\frac{{d}\left({e}^{\mathrm{ln}\:{x}} \right)}{{dx}}={e}^{\mathrm{ln}\:{x}} ×\frac{{d}\left(\mathrm{ln}\:{x}\right)}{{dx}}={e}^{\mathrm{ln}\:{x}} ×\frac{\mathrm{1}}{{x}}={x}×\frac{\mathrm{1}}{{x}}=\mathrm{1} \\ $$

Commented by Rio Michael last updated on 11/Jul/19

nice.

$${nice}. \\ $$

Commented by kaivan.ahmadi last updated on 11/Jul/19

y=e^(lnx) ⇒lny=lnxlne=lnx⇒  lny−lnx=0⇒ln(y/x)=0⇒(y/x)=e^0 =1⇒y=x

$${y}={e}^{{lnx}} \Rightarrow{lny}={lnxlne}={lnx}\Rightarrow \\ $$$${lny}−{lnx}=\mathrm{0}\Rightarrow{ln}\frac{{y}}{{x}}=\mathrm{0}\Rightarrow\frac{{y}}{{x}}={e}^{\mathrm{0}} =\mathrm{1}\Rightarrow{y}={x} \\ $$

Commented by kaivan.ahmadi last updated on 11/Jul/19

generally  a^(log_a x) =x since  if y=a^(log_a x) ⇒log_a y=log_a xlog_a a=log_a x⇒  log_a y−log_a x=0⇒log_a (y/x)=0⇒  (y/x)=a^0 =1⇒y=x

$${generally} \\ $$$${a}^{{log}_{{a}} {x}} ={x}\:{since} \\ $$$${if}\:{y}={a}^{{log}_{{a}} {x}} \Rightarrow{log}_{{a}} {y}={log}_{{a}} {xlog}_{{a}} {a}={log}_{{a}} {x}\Rightarrow \\ $$$${log}_{{a}} {y}−{log}_{{a}} {x}=\mathrm{0}\Rightarrow{log}_{{a}} \frac{{y}}{{x}}=\mathrm{0}\Rightarrow \\ $$$$\frac{{y}}{{x}}={a}^{\mathrm{0}} =\mathrm{1}\Rightarrow{y}={x} \\ $$

Answered by MJS last updated on 12/Jul/19

a+b=c ⇔ a=c−b ⇔ b=c−a  we need only one kind of operation  same here:  a×b=c ⇔ a=(c/b) ⇔ b=(c/a)  that′s because addition and multiplication  both are commutative  a+b=b+c  a×b=b×a    but  a^b ≠b^a  in general  a^b =c ⇔ a=(c)^(1/b)  ⇔ b=log_a  c  a^b =? with a=(c)^(1/b)   ((c)^(1/b) )^b =c  a^b =? with b=log_a  c  a^(log_a  c) =c    ln x =log_e  x but some people use log x instead  we should not because usually log x means  log_(10)  x    btw  log_a  b =((ln b)/(ln a))

$${a}+{b}={c}\:\Leftrightarrow\:{a}={c}−{b}\:\Leftrightarrow\:{b}={c}−{a} \\ $$$$\mathrm{we}\:\mathrm{need}\:\mathrm{only}\:\mathrm{one}\:\mathrm{kind}\:\mathrm{of}\:\mathrm{operation} \\ $$$$\mathrm{same}\:\mathrm{here}: \\ $$$${a}×{b}={c}\:\Leftrightarrow\:{a}=\frac{{c}}{{b}}\:\Leftrightarrow\:{b}=\frac{{c}}{{a}} \\ $$$$\mathrm{that}'\mathrm{s}\:\mathrm{because}\:\mathrm{addition}\:\mathrm{and}\:\mathrm{multiplication} \\ $$$$\mathrm{both}\:\mathrm{are}\:\mathrm{commutative} \\ $$$${a}+{b}={b}+{c} \\ $$$${a}×{b}={b}×{a} \\ $$$$ \\ $$$$\mathrm{but} \\ $$$${a}^{{b}} \neq{b}^{{a}} \:\mathrm{in}\:\mathrm{general} \\ $$$${a}^{{b}} ={c}\:\Leftrightarrow\:{a}=\sqrt[{{b}}]{{c}}\:\Leftrightarrow\:{b}=\mathrm{log}_{{a}} \:{c} \\ $$$${a}^{{b}} =?\:\mathrm{with}\:{a}=\sqrt[{{b}}]{{c}} \\ $$$$\left(\sqrt[{{b}}]{{c}}\right)^{{b}} ={c} \\ $$$${a}^{{b}} =?\:\mathrm{with}\:{b}=\mathrm{log}_{{a}} \:{c} \\ $$$${a}^{\mathrm{log}_{{a}} \:{c}} ={c} \\ $$$$ \\ $$$$\mathrm{ln}\:{x}\:=\mathrm{log}_{\mathrm{e}} \:{x}\:\mathrm{but}\:\mathrm{some}\:\mathrm{people}\:\mathrm{use}\:\mathrm{log}\:{x}\:\mathrm{instead} \\ $$$$\mathrm{we}\:\mathrm{should}\:\mathrm{not}\:\mathrm{because}\:\mathrm{usually}\:\mathrm{log}\:{x}\:\mathrm{means} \\ $$$$\mathrm{log}_{\mathrm{10}} \:{x} \\ $$$$ \\ $$$$\mathrm{btw} \\ $$$$\mathrm{log}_{{a}} \:{b}\:=\frac{\mathrm{ln}\:{b}}{\mathrm{ln}\:{a}} \\ $$

Commented by Rio Michael last updated on 12/Jul/19

thanks so much

$${thanks}\:{so}\:{much} \\ $$

Terms of Service

Privacy Policy

Contact: info@tinkutara.com