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Question Number 78814 by M±th+et£s last updated on 20/Jan/20

Commented by mind is power last updated on 21/Jan/20

2nd Way  α^2 β^2 γ^2 δ^2 +α^2 β^2 +α^2 γ^2 +α^2 δ^2 +β^2 γ^2 +β^2 δ^2 +γ^2 δ^2 +α^2 β^2 γ^2 +α^2 β^2 δ^2 +β^2 γ^2 δ^2 +α^2 γ^2 δ^2   +1+α^2 +β^2 +δ^2 +γ^2   α^2 +β^2 +δ^2 +γ^2 =(α+β+δ+γ)^2 −2(αβ+βδ+βγ+αδ+αγ+δγ)  =(−b)^2 −2c=b^2 −2c  α^2 β^2 γ^2 δ^2 =(αβγδ)^2 =e^2   (α^2 β^2 +α^2 δ^2 +α^2 γ^2 +β^2 δ^2 +β^2 γ^2 +δ^2 γ^2 )=(αβ+αδ+αγ+βδ+βγ+δγ)^2   S=αβ+βγ+βδ+δγ+δα+γα  −2α^2 βδ−2α^2 βγ−2α^2 δγ−2β^2 (αγ+γδ+αδ)−2γ^2 (αβ+αδ+δβ)  −2δ^2 (αβ+αγ+γβ)  =c^2 −2α^2 (S−α(β+γ+δ))−2β^2 (S−β(α+γ+δ))−2δ^2 (S−δ(α+β+γ))  =−2γ^2 (S−γ(α+β+δ))  =−2S(α^2 +β^2 +δ^2 +γ^2 )+2α^3 (β+γ+δ)+2β^3 (α+γ+δ)+2δ^2 (α+β+γ)  +2γ^3 (α+β+δ)  U=α+β+δ+γ  =−2S(α^2 +β^2 +γ^2 +δ^2 )+2U(α^3 +β^3 +δ^3 +γ^3 )−2α^4 −2β^4 −2γ^4 −2δ^4   α^3 +β^3 +γ^3 +δ^3   use Newtoon Identity  Too Bee continued not the Best Way to go for but Worcks

2ndWayα2β2γ2δ2+α2β2+α2γ2+α2δ2+β2γ2+β2δ2+γ2δ2+α2β2γ2+α2β2δ2+β2γ2δ2+α2γ2δ2+1+α2+β2+δ2+γ2α2+β2+δ2+γ2=(α+β+δ+γ)22(αβ+βδ+βγ+αδ+αγ+δγ)=(b)22c=b22cα2β2γ2δ2=(αβγδ)2=e2(α2β2+α2δ2+α2γ2+β2δ2+β2γ2+δ2γ2)=(αβ+αδ+αγ+βδ+βγ+δγ)2S=αβ+βγ+βδ+δγ+δα+γα2α2βδ2α2βγ2α2δγ2β2(αγ+γδ+αδ)2γ2(αβ+αδ+δβ)2δ2(αβ+αγ+γβ)=c22α2(Sα(β+γ+δ))2β2(Sβ(α+γ+δ))2δ2(Sδ(α+β+γ))=2γ2(Sγ(α+β+δ))=2S(α2+β2+δ2+γ2)+2α3(β+γ+δ)+2β3(α+γ+δ)+2δ2(α+β+γ)+2γ3(α+β+δ)U=α+β+δ+γ=2S(α2+β2+γ2+δ2)+2U(α3+β3+δ3+γ3)2α42β42γ42δ4α3+β3+γ3+δ3useNewtoonIdentityTooBeecontinuednottheBestWaytogoforbutWorcks

Answered by mind is power last updated on 20/Jan/20

(x^2 +1)=(x+i)(x−i)  p(x)=x^4 +ax^3 +bx^2 +cx+d=(x−α)(x−β)(x−γ)(x−δ)  (α^2 +1)(β^2 +1)(γ^2 +1)(δ^2 +1)  =(α−i)(β−i)(γ−i)(δ−i)(α+i)(β+i)(γ+i)(δ+i)  p(−i)=(−i−α)(−i−β)(−i−γ)(−i−δ)  =(i+α)(i+β)(i+γ)(i+δ)  p(i)=(i−α)(i−γ)(i−δ)(i−β)=(α−i)(β−i)(δ−i)(γ−i)  ⇔(α^2 +1)(β^2 +1)(γ^2 +1)(δ^2 +1)=p(i).p(−i)  =(1−ia−b+ci+d)(1+ia−b−ci+d)  =(1−b+d+i(d−a))(1−b+d−i(d−a))  if b,c,d,e are reel  =(1−b+d)^2 +(d−a)^2   other case=(1−b+d+i(d−a))(1−b+d−i(d−a))

(x2+1)=(x+i)(xi)p(x)=x4+ax3+bx2+cx+d=(xα)(xβ)(xγ)(xδ)(α2+1)(β2+1)(γ2+1)(δ2+1)=(αi)(βi)(γi)(δi)(α+i)(β+i)(γ+i)(δ+i)p(i)=(iα)(iβ)(iγ)(iδ)=(i+α)(i+β)(i+γ)(i+δ)p(i)=(iα)(iγ)(iδ)(iβ)=(αi)(βi)(δi)(γi)(α2+1)(β2+1)(γ2+1)(δ2+1)=p(i).p(i)=(1iab+ci+d)(1+iabci+d)=(1b+d+i(da))(1b+di(da))ifb,c,d,earereel=(1b+d)2+(da)2othercase=(1b+d+i(da))(1b+di(da))

Commented by M±th+et£s last updated on 20/Jan/20

nice job. though there is a small error  in the fourth line from below when  you want to factorize by i , its: i(c−a) and −i(c−a).

nicejob.thoughthereisasmallerrorinthefourthlinefrombelowwhenyouwanttofactorizebyi,its:i(ca)andi(ca).

Commented by mind is power last updated on 20/Jan/20

yeah

yeah

Commented by jagoll last updated on 21/Jan/20

mr Mind is power  if we work using Vieta′s rule,  given the same result?

mrMindispowerifweworkusingVietasrule,giventhesameresult?

Commented by mind is power last updated on 21/Jan/20

yeah

yeah

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