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Question Number 78931 by mr W last updated on 21/Jan/20

if x+(1/x)=a  find x^n +(1/x^n )=?

ifx+1x=afindxn+1xn=?

Commented by mathmax by abdo last updated on 22/Jan/20

x+(1/x)=a ⇒x^2 +1=ax  ⇒x^2 −ax +1 =0  Δ=a^2 −4 ⇒x_1 =((a+(√(a^2 −4)))/2) and x_2 =((a−(√(a^2 −4)))/2)  case 1 x=x_1  ⇒x^n +(1/x^n ) =(((a+(√(a^2 −4)))/2))^n  +((2/(a+(√(a^2 −4)))))^n   =(1/2^n )(a+(√(a^2 −4)))^n  +2^n (((a−(√(a^2 −4)))/4))^n   =(1/2^n )(a+(√(a^2 −4)))^n  +(1/2^n )(a−(√(a^2 −4)))^n   case 2  x =x_2    we get the same value due to x_2 =conj(x_1 )

x+1x=ax2+1=axx2ax+1=0Δ=a24x1=a+a242andx2=aa242case1x=x1xn+1xn=(a+a242)n+(2a+a24)n=12n(a+a24)n+2n(aa244)n=12n(a+a24)n+12n(aa24)ncase2x=x2wegetthesamevalueduetox2=conj(x1)

Commented by mr W last updated on 22/Jan/20

thank you sir!  U_n =(1/2^n ){(a+(√(a^2 −4)))^n +(a−(√(a^2 −4)))^n }  can the term (a+(√(a^2 −4)))^n +(a−(√(a^2 −4)))^n   be simplified more?  if a∈Q, is slso U_n ∈Q?

thankyousir!Un=12n{(a+a24)n+(aa24)n}cantheterm(a+a24)n+(aa24)nbesimplifiedmore?ifaQ,isslsoUnQ?

Commented by mind is power last updated on 22/Jan/20

yeah a∈Q ,Un∈Q  because   U_(n+1) =aU_n −U_(n−1) ....  U_0 =2,U_1  =a∈Q By indiction  ∀n∈N  ,U_n ∈Q if a∈Z  U_n ∈Z also

yeahaQ,UnQbecauseUn+1=aUnUn1....U0=2,U1=aQByindictionnN,UnQifaZUnZalso

Commented by mr W last updated on 22/Jan/20

thanks sir!  i think so too. that means in final  U_n =(1/2^n ){(a+(√(a^2 −4)))^n +(a−(√(a^2 −4)))^n }  the term (√(a^2 −4)) should disappear.  how can the term (a+(√(a^2 −4)))^n +(a−(√(a^2 −4)))^n   be simplified such that (√(a^2 −4)) disappears?

thankssir!ithinksotoo.thatmeansinfinalUn=12n{(a+a24)n+(aa24)n}theterma24shoulddisappear.howcantheterm(a+a24)n+(aa24)nbesimplifiedsuchthata24disappears?

Commented by mind is power last updated on 22/Jan/20

yeah  (a−b)^n +(a+b)^n   =Σ_(k=0) ^n C_n ^k {a^(n−k) (−b)^k +a^(n−k) b^k }  =Σ_(k=0) ^(E(((n−1)/2))) C_n ^(2k+1) {−a^(n−(2k+1)) b^(2k+1) +a^(n−(2k+1)) b^(2k+1) }+Σ_(k=0) ^(E((n/2))) C_n ^(2k) {a^(n−2k) b^(2k) +a^(n−2k) b^(2k) }  =Σ_(k=0) ^(E((n/2))) 2C_n ^(2k) a^(n−2k) b^(2k)   (a+(√(a^2 −4)))^n +(a−(√(a^2 −4)))^n ,b=(√(a^2 −4))  we Get  2Σ_(k=0) ^(E((n/2))) C_n ^(2k) a^(n−2k) ((√(a^2 −4)))^(2k)    ifa≥2  =2Σ_(k=0) ^(E((n/2))) C_n ^(2k) a^(n−2k) (a^2 −4)^k

yeah(ab)n+(a+b)n=nk=0Cnk{ank(b)k+ankbk}=E(n12)k=0Cn2k+1{an(2k+1)b2k+1+an(2k+1)b2k+1}+E(n2)k=0Cn2k{an2kb2k+an2kb2k}=E(n2)k=02Cn2kan2kb2k(a+a24)n+(aa24)n,b=a24weGet2E(n2)k=0Cn2kan2k(a24)2kifa2=2E(n2)k=0Cn2kan2k(a24)k

Commented by mr W last updated on 22/Jan/20

if a^2 −4<0, i.e. −2<a<2:  a±(√(a^2 −4))=a±(√(4−a^2 ))i=2((a/2)±((√(4−a^2 ))/2)i)  =2[cos (±ϕ)+i sin (±ϕ)] with ϕ=cos^(−1) (a/2)  U_n =(1/2^n ){(a+(√(a^2 −4)))^n +(a−(√(a^2 −4)))^n }  =2 cos (nϕ)  =2 cos (n cos^(−1) (a/2))

ifa24<0,i.e.2<a<2:a±a24=a±4a2i=2(a2±4a22i)=2[cos(±φ)+isin(±φ)]withφ=cos1a2Un=12n{(a+a24)n+(aa24)n}=2cos(nφ)=2cos(ncos1a2)

Commented by mind is power last updated on 22/Jan/20

nice sir

nicesir

Commented by mr W last updated on 22/Jan/20

i′m wondering that U_n is always <2 if  a<2 and cos (n cos^(−1) (a/2)) ∈ Q if a∈Q.

imwonderingthatUnisalways<2ifa<2andcos(ncos1a2)QifaQ.

Answered by mind is power last updated on 21/Jan/20

let U_n =x^n +(1/x^n )  U_0 =2,U_1 =a  U_(n+1) =(x+(1/x))(x^n +(1/x^n ))−x^(n−1) +(1/x^(n−1) )  U_(n+1) =aU_n +U_(n−1)   ⇒U_(n+1) −aU_n −U_(n−1) =0  X^2 −aX−1=0  ⇒X_1 =((a−(√(a^2 +4)))/2),X_2 ^ =((a+(√(a^2 +4)))/2)  U_n =c(X_1 )^n +b(X_2 )^n   c+b=2  cX_1 +bX_2 =a  (a/2)(c+b)+((√(a^2 +4))/2)(b−c)=a  ⇒b=c  ⇒U_n =(((a−(√(a^2 +4)))/2))^n +(((a+(√(a^2 +4)))/2))^n

letUn=xn+1xnU0=2,U1=aUn+1=(x+1x)(xn+1xn)xn1+1xn1Un+1=aUn+Un1Un+1aUnUn1=0X2aX1=0X1=aa2+42,X2=a+a2+42Un=c(X1)n+b(X2)nc+b=2cX1+bX2=aa2(c+b)+a2+42(bc)=ab=cUn=(aa2+42)n+(a+a2+42)n

Commented by mr W last updated on 21/Jan/20

thanks alot sir!  please check typos:  U_(n+1) =aU_n −U_(n−1)   ⇒U_n =(((a−(√(a^2 −4)))/2))^n +(((a+(√(a^2 −4)))/2))^n

thanksalotsir!pleasechecktypos:Un+1=aUnUn1Un=(aa242)n+(a+a242)n

Commented by mind is power last updated on 21/Jan/20

yeah Sorry Sir i mack this Typ of error

yeahSorrySirimackthisTypoferror

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