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Question Number 81369 by mr W last updated on 12/Feb/20

Commented by mr W last updated on 12/Feb/20

This is a repost of Q81308.    I found the answer through the  following way, but it seems lengthy  and complex. Are there any other  standard methods?

ThisisarepostofQ81308.Ifoundtheanswerthroughthefollowingway,butitseemslengthyandcomplex.Arethereanyotherstandardmethods?

Commented by mr W last updated on 12/Feb/20

Commented by MJS last updated on 12/Feb/20

I think there is no better method, but you  made a consequent typo 134 instead of 143

Ithinkthereisnobettermethod,butyoumadeaconsequenttypo134insteadof143

Commented by MJS last updated on 12/Feb/20

can you find the last n with x_n =0?

canyoufindthelastnwithxn=0?

Commented by mr W last updated on 12/Feb/20

thank you for reviewing, and pointing  out the typo! let me thinking about the  question about x_n =0.

thankyouforreviewing,andpointingoutthetypo!letmethinkingaboutthequestionaboutxn=0.

Commented by MJS last updated on 12/Feb/20

I think it′s at n=108

Ithinkitsatn=108

Commented by mr W last updated on 12/Feb/20

yes! x_(108)  is the last zero term.

yes!x108isthelastzeroterm.

Answered by MJS last updated on 12/Feb/20

2104

2104

Answered by M±th+et£s last updated on 12/Feb/20

using Z transfrom  x_0 =x_2 =...=x_(11) =0,x_(12) =2 , x_(n+13) =x_(n+4) +2x_n   Z^(13) x(z) − 2z= z^4 x(z)+2x(z)→  x(z)=((2z)/(z^(13) −z^4 −2))=((2z^(−12) )/(1+z^(−9) −2z^(−13) ))=Σ_(k=1) ^(13) (A_k /(1−p_z z^(−1) ))  x_n =Σ_(k=1) ^(13) A_k p_k ^n  → x_(142) =Σ_(k=1) ^(142) A_k p_k ^n =2104

usingZtransfromx0=x2=...=x11=0,x12=2,xn+13=xn+4+2xnZ13x(z)2z=z4x(z)+2x(z)x(z)=2zz13z42=2z121+z92z13=13k=1Ak1pzz1xn=13k=1Akpknx142=142k=1Akpkn=2104

Commented by mr W last updated on 13/Feb/20

thank you!  i have not understood yet. can you  please check if there are any typos!  please give more explanation to  your last line and how you got 2104.

thankyou!ihavenotunderstoodyet.canyoupleasecheckifthereareanytypos!pleasegivemoreexplanationtoyourlastlineandhowyougot2104.

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