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Question Number 82806 by ajfour last updated on 24/Feb/20

Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Feb/20

If released as shown by dashed  lines, subsequently find θ(x).  Assume length of rod L.

Ifreleasedasshownbydashedlines,subsequentlyfindθ(x).AssumelengthofrodL.

Answered by mr W last updated on 24/Feb/20

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Feb/20

a=g sin θ  N=m(g cos θ−αx)  Mg ((L cos θ)/2)+Nx=((ML^2 )/3)α  Mg ((L cos θ)/2)+m(g cos θ−αx)x=((ML^2 )/3)α  ( ((ML)/2)+mx)g cos θ=(((ML^2 )/3)+mx^2 )α  α=(d^2 θ/dt^2 )=((g( ((ML)/2)+mx)cos θ)/(((ML^2 )/3)+mx^2 ))  a=(d^2 x/dt^2 )=g sin θ  x(0)=c (marked as a in diagram)  v(0)=x′(0)=0  θ(0)=0  ω(0)=θ′(0)=0  let μ=(m/M), ξ=(x/L)  (d^2 θ/dt^2 )=((g( (1/2)+μξ)cos θ)/(L((1/3)+μξ^2 )))   ...(i)  (d^2 ξ/dt^2 )=(g/L) sin θ   ...(ii)    we solve (i) and (ii) to get ξ(t) and  θ(t) (theoretically)  ......

a=gsinθN=m(gcosθαx)MgLcosθ2+Nx=ML23αMgLcosθ2+m(gcosθαx)x=ML23α(ML2+mx)gcosθ=(ML23+mx2)αα=d2θdt2=g(ML2+mx)cosθML23+mx2a=d2xdt2=gsinθx(0)=c(markedasaindiagram)v(0)=x(0)=0θ(0)=0ω(0)=θ(0)=0letμ=mM,ξ=xLd2θdt2=g(12+μξ)cosθL(13+μξ2)...(i)d2ξdt2=gLsinθ...(ii)wesolve(i)and(ii)togetξ(t)andθ(t)(theoretically)......

Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Feb/20

I=((ML^2 )/3)  τ = Mg((L/2))cos θ+mgrcos θ             −Nr= Iα         .......(i)   gsin θ=((vdv)/dr)−ω^2 r+αr     ....(ii)  let r^� =re^(iθ)   v^� =(dr/dt)e^(iθ) +r(d/dθ)(e^(iθ) )((dθ/dt))  a^� =(d^2 r/dt^2 )e^(iθ) +2((dr/dt))((dθ/dt))(d/dθ)(e^(iθ) )          +r((dθ/dt))^2 (d^2 /dθ^2 )(e^(iθ) )+r((d^2 θ/dt^2 ))e^(iθ)    ⇒  a_θ =2ωv   ,  a_r =(d^2 r/dt^2 )−ω^2 r+αr  mgcos θ−N=2mωv       .....(iii)  Now using (iii) in (i):     Mg((L/2))cos θ+mgrcos θ      +2mωvr−mgrcos θ = Iα  ...(1)  ⇒  Mg((L/2))cos θ+2mωvr=Iα  differentiating w.r.t.   t  −Mg((L/2))((dθ/dt))sin θ  +2mαvr+2mωr((dv/dt))+2mωv^2 =I((dα/dt))  ........

I=ML23τ=Mg(L2)cosθ+mgrcosθNr=Iα.......(i)gsinθ=vdvdrω2r+αr....(ii)letr¯=reiθv¯=drdteiθ+rddθ(eiθ)(dθdt)a¯=d2rdt2eiθ+2(drdt)(dθdt)ddθ(eiθ)+r(dθdt)2d2dθ2(eiθ)+r(d2θdt2)eiθaθ=2ωv,ar=d2rdt2ω2r+αrmgcosθN=2mωv.....(iii)Nowusing(iii)in(i):Mg(L2)cosθ+mgrcosθ+2mωvrmgrcosθ=Iα...(1)Mg(L2)cosθ+2mωvr=Iαdifferentiatingw.r.t.tMg(L2)(dθdt)sinθ+2mαvr+2mωr(dvdt)+2mωv2=I(dαdt)........

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Feb/20

you are right, thanks sir!  i found no way to solve the equations.

youareright,thankssir!ifoundnowaytosolvetheequations.

Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Feb/20

sir in the 3^(rd)  line , should be    Nx  instead of Nxcos θ.

sirinthe3rdline,shouldbeNxinsteadofNxcosθ.

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Feb/20

(dξ/dt)=ω(dξ/dθ)  (d^2 ξ/dt^2 )=α(dξ/dθ)+ω^2 (d^2 ξ/dθ^2 )  ((g( (1/2)+μξ)cos θ)/(L((1/3)+μξ^2 )))×(dξ/dθ)+ω^2 (d^2 ξ/dθ^2 )=(g/L) sin θ   ω(dω/dθ)=((g( (1/2)+μξ)cos θ)/(L((1/3)+μξ^2 )))    ω^2 =2∫_0 ^θ ((g( (1/2)+μξ)cos θ)/(L((1/3)+μξ^2 )))dθ  ⇒2∫_0 ^θ ((( (1/2)+μξ)cos θ)/(((1/3)+μξ^2 )))dθ×(d^2 ξ/dθ^2 )+((( (1/2)+μξ)cos θ)/(((1/3)+μξ^2 )))×(dξ/dθ)=sin θ

dξdt=ωdξdθd2ξdt2=αdξdθ+ω2d2ξdθ2g(12+μξ)cosθL(13+μξ2)×dξdθ+ω2d2ξdθ2=gLsinθωdωdθ=g(12+μξ)cosθL(13+μξ2)ω2=20θg(12+μξ)cosθL(13+μξ2)dθ20θ(12+μξ)cosθ(13+μξ2)dθ×d2ξdθ2+(12+μξ)cosθ(13+μξ2)×dξdθ=sinθ

Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Feb/20

Thanks sir, bringing it as far, but  let us rather focus on something  smoother..

Thankssir,bringingitasfar,butletusratherfocusonsomethingsmoother..

Commented by mr W last updated on 24/Feb/20

yes sir!  what′s about Q81968? can you post  your solution sir?

yessir!whatsaboutQ81968?canyoupostyoursolutionsir?

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