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Question Number 84655 by ajfour last updated on 14/Mar/20

Commented by ajfour last updated on 14/Mar/20

If area of △ABC  is equal to  max trapezium area BCED ,  find r in terms of ellipse   parameters a and b.

IfareaofABCisequaltomaxtrapeziumareaBCED,findrintermsofellipseparametersaandb.

Answered by mr W last updated on 15/Mar/20

Commented by mr W last updated on 15/Mar/20

let α=cos^(−1) (h/b)  BC=2a sin α  [BCED]_(max) =((ab)/2)[3 sin (((2α)/3))−sin (2α)]  [ABC]=a(b+h) sin α  ((ab)/2)[3 sin (((2α)/3))−sin (2α)]=a(b+h) sin α  3 sin (((2α)/3))−sin (2α)=2(1+(h/b)) sin α  let λ=(h/b)  ⇒α=cos^(−1) λ  ⇒3 sin (((2α)/3))=2(2λ+1) sin α  ⇒λ≈0.121555    AC=(√(a^2 (1−λ^2 )+b^2 (1+λ)^2 ))  ab(1+λ) sin α=r(a sin α+(√(a^2 (1−λ^2 )+b^2 (1+λ)^2 ))  b(1+λ)=r[1+(√(1+(((1+λ)b^2 )/((1−λ)a^2 ))))]  ⇒(r/b)=((1+λ)/(1+(√(1+(((1+λ)b^2 )/((1−λ)a^2 ))))))  examples:  (b/a)=1 ⇒(r/b)=0.447032  (b/a)=(2/3) ⇒(r/b)=0.498031  (b/a)=(1/2) ⇒(r/b)=0.522003  (b/a)=2 ⇒(r/b)=0.323100

letα=cos1hbBC=2asinα[BCED]max=ab2[3sin(2α3)sin(2α)][ABC]=a(b+h)sinαab2[3sin(2α3)sin(2α)]=a(b+h)sinα3sin(2α3)sin(2α)=2(1+hb)sinαletλ=hbα=cos1λ3sin(2α3)=2(2λ+1)sinαλ0.121555AC=a2(1λ2)+b2(1+λ)2ab(1+λ)sinα=r(asinα+a2(1λ2)+b2(1+λ)2b(1+λ)=r[1+1+(1+λ)b2(1λ)a2]rb=1+λ1+1+(1+λ)b2(1λ)a2examples:ba=1rb=0.447032ba=23rb=0.498031ba=12rb=0.522003ba=2rb=0.323100

Commented by ajfour last updated on 15/Mar/20

Sir i couldn′t get your logic for  [BCED]_(max)  , kindly enlighten..

Siricouldntgetyourlogicfor[BCED]max,kindlyenlighten..

Commented by mr W last updated on 15/Mar/20

Commented by mr W last updated on 15/Mar/20

when wir shrink the ellipse in x−  direction in ratio (b/a) to a circle, the  ratio of the areas from the triangle  ABC to trapezium BCED remains  unchanged, i.e.  (([ABC])/([BCED]))=(([AB′C′])/([B′C′E′D′]))  for the circle with radius b, the  trapezium B′C′E′D′ is maximum,  when B′D′=D′E′=E′C′ (proof omitted).    cos α=(h/b) ⇒α=cos^(−1) (h/b)  β=((2α)/3)  [B′C′E′D′]_(max) =3×((b^2  sin β)/2)−((b^2  sin 2α)/2)  =(b^2 /2)[3 sin (((2α)/3))−sin 2α]  [BCED]_(max) =(a/b)×[B′C′E′D′]_(max)   =((ab)/2)(3 sin (((2α)/3))−sin 2α)    B′C′=2b sin α  BC=(a/b)×B′C′=2a sin α

whenwirshrinktheellipseinxdirectioninratiobatoacircle,theratiooftheareasfromthetriangleABCtotrapeziumBCEDremainsunchanged,i.e.[ABC][BCED]=[ABC][BCED]forthecirclewithradiusb,thetrapeziumBCEDismaximum,whenBD=DE=EC(proofomitted).cosα=hbα=cos1hbβ=2α3[BCED]max=3×b2sinβ2b2sin2α2=b22[3sin(2α3)sin2α][BCED]max=ab×[BCED]max=ab2(3sin(2α3)sin2α)BC=2bsinαBC=ab×BC=2asinα

Commented by ajfour last updated on 15/Mar/20

Thanks sir for the explanation,  i shall be thoroughly through it  by tomorrow..

Thankssirfortheexplanation,ishallbethoroughlythroughitbytomorrow..

Answered by ajfour last updated on 15/Mar/20

C(acos θ, −bsin θ)  ;   E(acos φ, −bsin φ).  say  △_(ABC) =S   ,  Area_(BCED) =T  S=T  and  (∂T/∂φ)=0   gives  cos (φ−θ)+cos 2φ−sin 2θ                        +sin (φ−θ)=0   &  sin (φ−θ)+((sin 2φ)/2)−sin 2θ−cos θ=0  but i know not how to obtain  θ and φ from these two eqs. Sir..

C(acosθ,bsinθ);E(acosϕ,bsinϕ).sayABC=S,AreaBCED=TS=TandTϕ=0givescos(ϕθ)+cos2ϕsin2θ+sin(ϕθ)=0&sin(ϕθ)+sin2ϕ2sin2θcosθ=0butiknownothowtoobtainθandϕfromthesetwoeqs.Sir..

Commented by mr W last updated on 16/Mar/20

A=ab cos θ (1+sin θ)  S=ab(cos θ+cos φ)(sin φ−sin θ)    (dS/dφ)=0  (cos θ+cos φ)cos φ−sin φ (sin φ−sin θ)=0  cos θ cos φ+cos^2  φ+sin φ sin θ−sin^2  φ=0  ⇒cos (φ−θ)+cos 2φ=0  ⇒φ−θ+2φ=π  ⇒φ=((π+θ)/3)    A=S  cos θ (1+sin θ)=(cos θ+cos φ)(sin φ−sin θ)  cos θ+sin θ cos θ=sin φ cos θ+cos φ sin φ−sin θ cos θ−cos φ sin θ  sin (φ−θ)+((sin 2φ)/2)−sin 2θ−cos θ=0  sin (((π−2θ)/3))+(1/2)sin (((2π+2θ)/3))−sin 2θ−cos θ=0  ⇒(3/2)sin (((π−2θ)/3))−sin 2θ−cos θ=0  ⇒θ≈6.981874°  ⇒(h/b)=sin θ≈0.121555  (=λ)

A=abcosθ(1+sinθ)S=ab(cosθ+cosϕ)(sinϕsinθ)dSdϕ=0(cosθ+cosϕ)cosϕsinϕ(sinϕsinθ)=0cosθcosϕ+cos2ϕ+sinϕsinθsin2ϕ=0cos(ϕθ)+cos2ϕ=0ϕθ+2ϕ=πϕ=π+θ3A=Scosθ(1+sinθ)=(cosθ+cosϕ)(sinϕsinθ)cosθ+sinθcosθ=sinϕcosθ+cosϕsinϕsinθcosθcosϕsinθsin(ϕθ)+sin2ϕ2sin2θcosθ=0sin(π2θ3)+12sin(2π+2θ3)sin2θcosθ=032sin(π2θ3)sin2θcosθ=0θ6.981874°hb=sinθ0.121555(=λ)

Commented by mr W last updated on 16/Mar/20

the result is the same as mine.

theresultisthesameasmine.

Commented by ajfour last updated on 16/Mar/20

Thank you sir, beautifully  handled!

Thankyousir,beautifullyhandled!

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