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Question Number 90457 by M±th+et£s last updated on 23/Apr/20

the range of y=(√x)  is[0,+∞) if x≥0  or just [0,+∞) ?

therangeofy=xis[0,+)ifx0orjust[0,+)?

Commented by MJS last updated on 24/Apr/20

talking of “definition” and “range” makes  no sense for x∉R usually.  y=(√x) is defined for x≥0 and its range is [0; +∞)  for x∈C we get different kinds of problems  [try to solve −1=(√x)]

talkingofdefinitionandrangemakesnosenseforxRusually.y=xisdefinedforx0anditsrangeis[0;+)forxCwegetdifferentkindsofproblems[trytosolve1=x]

Commented by M±th+et£s last updated on 24/Apr/20

that means the range is [0,+∞) because  the range is y value in R or its in R and C?  and i was asking if its wrong if we didn′t  wrote x≥0

thatmeanstherangeis[0,+)becausetherangeisyvalueinRoritsinRandC?andiwasaskingifitswrongifwedidntwrotex0

Commented by MJS last updated on 24/Apr/20

first you must specify the underlying set  for x and for y  i.e. f={(x, y)∣x∈N∧y∈N∧y=(√x)}  or   f={(x, y)∣x∈R∧y∈Z∧y=(√x)}  or whatever is required  usually, after having learned the rules for  N, Z, Q and R you learn about functions  with R→R or (x, y)∈R×R (=R^2 )  (x, y)∈C^2  is the last step  so I guess we′re in R^2   in this case y=(√x) is not defined for x<0 and  the range is [0; +∞) or simply y≥0. if only  the range is asked for, y≥0 is enough

firstyoumustspecifytheunderlyingsetforxandforyi.e.f={(x,y)xNyNy=x}orf={(x,y)xRyZy=x}orwhateverisrequiredusually,afterhavinglearnedtherulesforN,Z,QandRyoulearnaboutfunctionswithRRor(x,y)R×R(=R2)(x,y)C2isthelaststepsoIguesswereinR2inthiscasey=xisnotdefinedforx<0andtherangeis[0;+)orsimplyy0.ifonlytherangeisaskedfor,y0isenough

Commented by MJS last updated on 24/Apr/20

if we′re in C^2  it′s getting more complicated  x∈C ⇔ x=e^(iθ) r with r∈R^+  and −π≤θ<π (?)  here the complications start. some use  0≤θ<2π. some say (√(e^(iθ) r)) is not unique because  y^2 =x has 2 solutions... but (√4)≠−2 even though  (−2)^2 =4. which definitions to use depends  on which kind of solution you need.    y=(√x)=(√(e^(iθ) r))=e^(i(θ/2)) (√r) is unique if we define  r≥0∧−π≤θ<π  then y=(√x) is defined for x∈C  but you cannot get y∈R^−  because  −π≤θ<π ⇔ −(π/2)≤(θ/2)<(π/2)  ⇒ the range is y=e^(iφ) s; s∈R^+ ∧−(π/2)≤φ<(π/2)  or y=a+bi; a∈R^+ ∧b∈R    change the definitions above and you get  different ranges

ifwereinC2itsgettingmorecomplicatedxCx=eiθrwithrR+andπθ<π(?)herethecomplicationsstart.someuse0θ<2π.somesayeiθrisnotuniquebecausey2=xhas2solutions...but42eventhough(2)2=4.whichdefinitionstousedependsonwhichkindofsolutionyouneed.y=x=eiθr=eiθ2risuniqueifwedefiner0πθ<πtheny=xisdefinedforxCbutyoucannotgetyRbecauseπθ<ππ2θ2<π2therangeisy=eiϕs;sR+π2ϕ<π2ory=a+bi;aR+bRchangethedefinitionsaboveandyougetdifferentranges

Commented by M±th+et£s last updated on 24/Apr/20

thank you verry much sir

thankyouverrymuchsir

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