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Question Number 95062 by mr W last updated on 22/May/20

solve for x, y, z ∈C such that  ∣x∣=∣y∣=∣z∣=1  x+y+z=1  xyz=1

$${solve}\:{for}\:{x},\:{y},\:{z}\:\in\mathbb{C}\:{such}\:{that} \\ $$$$\mid{x}\mid=\mid{y}\mid=\mid{z}\mid=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$${x}+{y}+{z}=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$${xyz}=\mathrm{1} \\ $$

Commented by EmericGent last updated on 22/May/20

BlackPenRedPen solved it today ^^ (1;i;-i)

Commented by mr W last updated on 23/May/20

maybe other people have other methods.  basically almost all existing questions   in the world have already solutions.  if only questions, which are not yet   solved, are interesting for this forum,  then we can close it right now.

$${maybe}\:{other}\:{people}\:{have}\:{other}\:{methods}. \\ $$$${basically}\:{almost}\:{all}\:{existing}\:{questions}\: \\ $$$${in}\:{the}\:{world}\:{have}\:{already}\:{solutions}. \\ $$$${if}\:{only}\:{questions},\:{which}\:{are}\:{not}\:{yet}\: \\ $$$${solved},\:{are}\:{interesting}\:{for}\:{this}\:{forum}, \\ $$$${then}\:{we}\:{can}\:{close}\:{it}\:{right}\:{now}. \\ $$

Commented by EmericGent last updated on 22/May/20

I know, but posted the video this morning

Commented by mr W last updated on 22/May/20

do you have a solution? i′m  interested. interesting is it when  different people take different ways  to solve the same problem.

$${do}\:{you}\:{have}\:{a}\:{solution}?\:{i}'{m} \\ $$$${interested}.\:{interesting}\:{is}\:{it}\:{when} \\ $$$${different}\:{people}\:{take}\:{different}\:{ways} \\ $$$${to}\:{solve}\:{the}\:{same}\:{problem}. \\ $$

Commented by prakash jain last updated on 23/May/20

x=e^(ia) ,y=e^(ib) ,z=d^(ic)   e^(i(a+b+c)) =1  cos (a+b+c)=1  sin (a+b+c)=0  a+b+c=2nπ  x+y+z=1         cos a+cos b+cos c=1         sin a+sin b+sin c=0  cos a+cos b+cos (a+b)=1  cos a+cos b−1=cos (a+b)    (i)  sin a+sinb−sin (a+b)=0  sin a+sin b=sin (a+b)              (ii)  (i)^2 +(ii)^2   cos^2 a+cos^2 b+1+sin^2 a+sin^2 b  +2sin asin b+2cos acos b  −2cos a−2cos b=1  1+cos (a−b)=cos a+cos b  cos (a−b)=cosa+cosb−1  cos(a−b)−cos(a+b)=0  cos acos b=0  (II)  We can take  cos a=0  a=2nπ±(π/2)  solve for one value  x=i  y+z=1−i  yz=−i  (y+z)^2 −4yz=−2i+4i  (y−z)^2 =2i=(1+i)^2   y−z=1+i  y=1  z=−i  It can seen from symettry that  alternate solution for (II) and  subsequent equation only  interchanges x,y,z

$${x}={e}^{{ia}} ,{y}={e}^{{ib}} ,{z}={d}^{{ic}} \\ $$$${e}^{{i}\left({a}+{b}+{c}\right)} =\mathrm{1} \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}\:\left({a}+{b}+{c}\right)=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$$\mathrm{sin}\:\left({a}+{b}+{c}\right)=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{b}+\mathrm{c}=\mathrm{2}{n}\pi \\ $$$${x}+{y}+{z}=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{b}+\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{c}=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$$\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\mathrm{sin}\:\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{sin}\:\mathrm{b}+\mathrm{sin}\:\mathrm{c}=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{b}+\mathrm{cos}\:\left(\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{b}\right)=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{b}−\mathrm{1}=\mathrm{cos}\:\left(\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{b}\right)\:\:\:\:\left(\mathrm{i}\right) \\ $$$$\mathrm{sin}\:\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{sinb}−\mathrm{sin}\:\left(\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{b}\right)=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\mathrm{sin}\:\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{sin}\:\mathrm{b}=\mathrm{sin}\:\left(\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{b}\right)\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\:\left(\mathrm{ii}\right) \\ $$$$\left(\mathrm{i}\right)^{\mathrm{2}} +\left(\mathrm{ii}\right)^{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{a}+\mathrm{cos}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{b}+\mathrm{1}+\mathrm{sin}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{a}+\mathrm{sin}^{\mathrm{2}} \mathrm{b} \\ $$$$+\mathrm{2sin}\:\mathrm{asin}\:\mathrm{b}+\mathrm{2cos}\:\mathrm{acos}\:\mathrm{b} \\ $$$$−\mathrm{2cos}\:\mathrm{a}−\mathrm{2cos}\:\mathrm{b}=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$$\mathrm{1}+\mathrm{cos}\:\left(\mathrm{a}−\mathrm{b}\right)=\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{b} \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}\:\left(\mathrm{a}−\mathrm{b}\right)=\mathrm{cosa}+\mathrm{cosb}−\mathrm{1} \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}\left(\mathrm{a}−\mathrm{b}\right)−\mathrm{cos}\left(\mathrm{a}+\mathrm{b}\right)=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}\:{a}\mathrm{cos}\:{b}=\mathrm{0}\:\:\left(\mathrm{II}\right) \\ $$$$\mathrm{We}\:\mathrm{can}\:\mathrm{take} \\ $$$$\mathrm{cos}\:\mathrm{a}=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$${a}=\mathrm{2}{n}\pi\pm\frac{\pi}{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$$\mathrm{solve}\:\mathrm{for}\:\mathrm{one}\:\mathrm{value} \\ $$$${x}={i} \\ $$$${y}+{z}=\mathrm{1}−{i} \\ $$$${yz}=−{i} \\ $$$$\left({y}+{z}\right)^{\mathrm{2}} −\mathrm{4}{yz}=−\mathrm{2}{i}+\mathrm{4}{i} \\ $$$$\left({y}−{z}\right)^{\mathrm{2}} =\mathrm{2}{i}=\left(\mathrm{1}+{i}\right)^{\mathrm{2}} \\ $$$${y}−{z}=\mathrm{1}+{i} \\ $$$${y}=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$${z}=−{i} \\ $$$$\mathrm{It}\:\mathrm{can}\:\mathrm{seen}\:\mathrm{from}\:\mathrm{symettry}\:\mathrm{that} \\ $$$$\mathrm{alternate}\:\mathrm{solution}\:\mathrm{for}\:\left(\mathrm{II}\right)\:\mathrm{and} \\ $$$$\mathrm{subsequent}\:\mathrm{equation}\:\mathrm{only} \\ $$$$\mathrm{interchanges}\:{x},{y},{z} \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 23/May/20

very nice! thanks sir!

$${very}\:{nice}!\:{thanks}\:{sir}! \\ $$

Commented by mr W last updated on 23/May/20

x,y,z are roots of eqn.  t^3 −t^2 +kt−1=0  ∣t∣=1  it must have at least one real root,  this real root must be −1 or 1.  −1−1−k−1=0 ⇒k=−3  1−1+k−1=0 ⇒k=1    with k=−3:  t^3 −t^2 −3t−1=0  (t+1)(t^2 −2t−1)=0  ⇒t=−1, 1±(√5)  but ∣1±(√5)∣≠1, ⇒k≠−3, t≠−1    with k=1:  t^3 −t^2 +t−1=0  (t−1)(t^2 +1)=0  ⇒t=1, ±i  ⇒x,y,z ∈(1,i,−i)

$${x},{y},{z}\:{are}\:{roots}\:{of}\:{eqn}. \\ $$$${t}^{\mathrm{3}} −{t}^{\mathrm{2}} +{kt}−\mathrm{1}=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\mid{t}\mid=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$${it}\:{must}\:{have}\:{at}\:{least}\:{one}\:{real}\:{root}, \\ $$$${this}\:{real}\:{root}\:{must}\:{be}\:−\mathrm{1}\:{or}\:\mathrm{1}. \\ $$$$−\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{1}−{k}−\mathrm{1}=\mathrm{0}\:\Rightarrow{k}=−\mathrm{3} \\ $$$$\mathrm{1}−\mathrm{1}+{k}−\mathrm{1}=\mathrm{0}\:\Rightarrow{k}=\mathrm{1} \\ $$$$ \\ $$$${with}\:{k}=−\mathrm{3}: \\ $$$${t}^{\mathrm{3}} −{t}^{\mathrm{2}} −\mathrm{3}{t}−\mathrm{1}=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\left({t}+\mathrm{1}\right)\left({t}^{\mathrm{2}} −\mathrm{2}{t}−\mathrm{1}\right)=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow{t}=−\mathrm{1},\:\mathrm{1}\pm\sqrt{\mathrm{5}} \\ $$$${but}\:\mid\mathrm{1}\pm\sqrt{\mathrm{5}}\mid\neq\mathrm{1},\:\Rightarrow{k}\neq−\mathrm{3},\:{t}\neq−\mathrm{1} \\ $$$$ \\ $$$${with}\:{k}=\mathrm{1}: \\ $$$${t}^{\mathrm{3}} −{t}^{\mathrm{2}} +{t}−\mathrm{1}=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\left({t}−\mathrm{1}\right)\left({t}^{\mathrm{2}} +\mathrm{1}\right)=\mathrm{0} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow{t}=\mathrm{1},\:\pm{i} \\ $$$$\Rightarrow{x},{y},{z}\:\in\left(\mathrm{1},{i},−{i}\right) \\ $$

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