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Question Number 20202 by Joel577 last updated on 24/Aug/17

Is definite integral can have negative value?  Because I think ∫_a ^b f(x) dx is total area below  graph f(x) from x = a until x = b, so it can′t  be negative

Isdefiniteintegralcanhavenegativevalue?BecauseIthinkabf(x)dxistotalareabelowgraphf(x)fromx=auntilx=b,soitcantbenegative

Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Aug/17

cannot f(x) itself be negative for  a≤x≤b ?  So ∫_a ^(  b) f(x)dx can be negative,  positive or zero, depending on    values of f(x) in the length x=a  to x=b .

cannotf(x)itselfbenegativeforaxb?Soabf(x)dxcanbenegative,positiveorzero,dependingonvaluesoff(x)inthelengthx=atox=b.

Commented by Joel577 last updated on 24/Aug/17

In example I = ∫_0 ^(π/2) x cos 2x dx  the result is −(1/2). Is it true or not?

InexampleI=0π/2xcos2xdxtheresultis12.Isittrueornot?

Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Aug/17

∫_π ^(  2π) sin xdx= ?, ∫_(−1) ^(  0) xdx=? .  ∫xcos 2xdx=((xsin 2x)/2)∣_0 ^(π/2) −(1/2)∫_0 ^(  π/2) sin 2xdx  = 0+((cos 2x)/4)∣_0 ^(π/2)  = ((−1−1)/4) =−(1/2) .

π2πsinxdx=?,10xdx=?.xcos2xdx=xsin2x20π/2120π/2sin2xdx=0+cos2x40π/2=114=12.

Commented by Joel577 last updated on 24/Aug/17

But if I separate it into  ∫_0 ^(π/4) x . cos 2x dx + ∫_(π/4) ^(π/2) x . cos 2x dx  it isn′t −(1/2)

ButifIseparateitinto0π/4x.cos2xdx+π/4π/2x.cos2xdxitisnt12

Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Aug/17

[((xsin 2x)/2)+((cos 2x)/4)]∣_0 ^(π/4) +[((xsin 2x)/2)+((cos 2x)/4)]∣_(π/4) ^(π/2)   =((π/8)−(1/4))+(−(1/4)−(π/8)) =−(1/2) .

[xsin2x2+cos2x4]0π/4+[xsin2x2+cos2x4]π/4π/2=(π814)+(14π8)=12.

Commented by Joel577 last updated on 24/Aug/17

Commented by Joel577 last updated on 24/Aug/17

I have a little doubt about this  The area between (π/4) and (π/2) is below x−axis  So, the integral must be positive, isn′t it?

IhavealittledoubtaboutthisTheareabetweenπ4andπ2isbelowxaxisSo,theintegralmustbepositive,isntit?

Commented by Joel577 last updated on 24/Aug/17

Please explain with more detail Sir Ajfour

PleaseexplainwithmoredetailSirAjfour

Commented by ajfour last updated on 24/Aug/17

The area from π/4  to  3π/4  is  negative.

Theareafromπ/4to3π/4isnegative.

Commented by Joel577 last updated on 25/Aug/17

Understood. Thank you very much

Understood.Thankyouverymuch

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