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Question Number 214228 by mr W last updated on 02/Dec/24

Commented by mr W last updated on 02/Dec/24

find area of the square

findareaofthesquare

Answered by aleks041103 last updated on 02/Dec/24

let the point have a name G  and let it be at (y,z)  let B be at (0,0)  let C be at (x,0)  let A be at (0,x)  then:  y^2 +(x−z)^2 =7^2   y^2 +z^2 =4^2   (x−y)^2 +z^2 =9^2     x^2 +y^2 +z^2 −2xz=49  x^2 +y^2 +z^2 −2xy=81  y^2 +z^2 =16    x^2 −33=2xz  x^2 −65=2xy  y^2 +z^2 =16    ⇒x(z−y)=16 , 4x^2 yz=(x^2 −33)(x^2 −65)  ⇒x^2 (z−y)^2 =16^2 =  =x^2 (y^2 +z^2 )−2x^2 yz=  =16x^2 −(1/2)(x^2 −33)(x^2 −65)  ⇒S=x^2  and  2.16^2 =2.16S−(S−33)(S−65)  (S−33)(S−65)−32S+512=0  S^2 −130S+33.65+512=0  S^2 −130S+2657=0  ⇒S=65±(√(65^2 −2657))=65±(√(1568))    remains to be checked whether these  are valid solutions.  (also i may have made a mistake somewhere ;) )

letthepointhaveanameGandletitbeat(y,z)letBbeat(0,0)letCbeat(x,0)letAbeat(0,x)then:y2+(xz)2=72y2+z2=42(xy)2+z2=92x2+y2+z22xz=49x2+y2+z22xy=81y2+z2=16x233=2xzx265=2xyy2+z2=16x(zy)=16,4x2yz=(x233)(x265)x2(zy)2=162==x2(y2+z2)2x2yz==16x212(x233)(x265)S=x2and2.162=2.16S(S33)(S65)(S33)(S65)32S+512=0S2130S+33.65+512=0S2130S+2657=0S=65±6522657=65±1568remainstobecheckedwhetherthesearevalidsolutions.(alsoimayhavemadeamistakesomewhere;))

Commented by mr W last updated on 02/Dec/24

S=65+(√(1568))=65+28(√2)  ⇒correct!

S=65+1568=65+282correct!

Answered by mr W last updated on 02/Dec/24

Commented by mr W last updated on 02/Dec/24

ΔBEA≡ΔBFG  cos β=(((4(√2))^2 +7^2 −9^2 )/(2×4(√2)×7))=0 ⇒β=90°  AB^2 =4^2 +7^2 −2×4×7 cos 135°           =65+28(√2)=area of square

ΔBEAΔBFGcosβ=(42)2+72922×42×7=0β=90°AB2=42+722×4×7cos135°=65+282=areaofsquare

Commented by MATHEMATICSAM last updated on 06/Dec/24

How did you get that 9 unit side of the  triangle constructed outside of AB?

Howdidyougetthat9unitsideofthetriangleconstructedoutsideofAB?

Commented by MATHEMATICSAM last updated on 06/Dec/24

you actually wanted 4 units, 9 units, A   limited AB and you also defined the angle  of 4 units side with AB. how is it   possible to draw a triangle with  all four conditions?

youactuallywanted4units,9units,AlimitedABandyoualsodefinedtheangleof4unitssidewithAB.howisitpossibletodrawatrianglewithallfourconditions?

Commented by mr W last updated on 06/Dec/24

since AB=BC, if you set AE=9 and  BE=4, then ΔABE≡ΔCBF.

sinceAB=BC,ifyousetAE=9andBE=4,thenΔABEΔCBF.

Commented by mr W last updated on 06/Dec/24

it′s a very clear thing, so i don′t  really know what′s your problem is.

itsaveryclearthing,soidontreallyknowwhatsyourproblemis.

Answered by TonyCWX08 last updated on 02/Dec/24

Answered by TonyCWX08 last updated on 02/Dec/24

BF=2(√2)  BF^2 +FC^2 =BC^2   (2(√2))^2 +(2(√2)+7)^2 =BC^2   BC^2 =8+8+28(√2)+49=65+28(√2)=Area

BF=22BF2+FC2=BC2(22)2+(22+7)2=BC2BC2=8+8+282+49=65+282=Area

Commented by TonyCWX08 last updated on 02/Dec/24

PE=(√(4^2 +4^2 ))=4(√2)  PE^2 +EC^2   =(4(√2))^2 +(7)^2   =81  =PC^2   Triangle_(PEC)  is a right angle triangle.  EC is collinear with FC.

PE=42+42=42PE2+EC2=(42)2+(7)2=81=PC2TrianglePECisarightangletriangle.ECiscollinearwithFC.

Commented by mr W last updated on 02/Dec/24

you must prove at first that FE and  EC are collinear! otherwise you  can not take FC=FE+EC=2(√2)+7.

youmustproveatfirstthatFEandECarecollinear!otherwiseyoucannottakeFC=FE+EC=22+7.

Commented by TonyCWX08 last updated on 02/Dec/24

My diagram is a bit misleading.

Mydiagramisabitmisleading.

Commented by mr W last updated on 02/Dec/24

yes! good approach!

yes!goodapproach!

Commented by TonyCWX08 last updated on 02/Dec/24

Fixed.

Fixed.

Answered by ajfour last updated on 03/Dec/24

p^2 +q^2 =16  s=q+(√(49−p^2 ))=p+(√(81−q^2 ))  ⇒ s^2 −2qs=33  &   s^2 −2ps=65  ⇒  (s^2 −33)^2 +(s^2 −65)^2 =64s^2   2s^2 −260s^2 +1089+4225=0  s=65±(√(4225−((1089)/2)−((4225)/2)))    s=65±(√(1568))    s=65±28(√2)

p2+q2=16s=q+49p2=p+81q2s22qs=33&s22ps=65(s233)2+(s265)2=64s22s2260s2+1089+4225=0s=65±42251089242252s=65±1568s=65±282

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