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Question Number 65491 by mr W last updated on 30/Jul/19

Commented by mr W last updated on 30/Jul/19

[Q65312 reposted]  find x=?

[Q65312reposted]findx=?

Answered by mr W last updated on 30/Jul/19

Commented by mr W last updated on 30/Jul/19

I developed following solution after  some trial & error.  vector method should also be a good  approach. ajfour sir: can you try it?    this is my solution:  let  OA=a, OB=b, OC=c, OD=d  OE=e, OF=f, OG=g, OH=h  SA=p, SE=q    using Menelaus′ theorem (see below):  ((q+2)/3)×(g/c)×(1/(p+1))=1    ...(i)  (q/5)×(g/c)×(2/p)=1    ...(ii)  (q/(5+x))×(h/d)×(3/p)=1    ...(iii)  ((q+2)/(3+x))×(h/d)×(2/(p+1))=1    ...(iv)    (i)÷(ii):  ((q+2)/3)×(5/q)×(1/(p+1))×(p/2)=1   ...(I)  (iii)÷(iv):  (q/(5+x))×((3+x)/(q+2))×(3/p)×((p+1)/2)=1   ...(II)    (I)×(II):  ((5×1×(3+x)×3)/(3×2×(5+x)×2))=1  ((5(3+x))/(4(5+x)))=1  ⇒15+5x=20+4x  ⇒x=5

Idevelopedfollowingsolutionaftersometrial&error.vectormethodshouldalsobeagoodapproach.ajfoursir:canyoutryit?thisismysolution:letOA=a,OB=b,OC=c,OD=dOE=e,OF=f,OG=g,OH=hSA=p,SE=qusingMenelaustheorem(seebelow):q+23×gc×1p+1=1...(i)q5×gc×2p=1...(ii)q5+x×hd×3p=1...(iii)q+23+x×hd×2p+1=1...(iv)(i)÷(ii):q+23×5q×1p+1×p2=1...(I)(iii)÷(iv):q5+x×3+xq+2×3p×p+12=1...(II)(I)×(II):5×1×(3+x)×33×2×(5+x)×2=15(3+x)4(5+x)=115+5x=20+4xx=5

Commented by mr W last updated on 30/Jul/19

Commented by MJS last updated on 31/Jul/19

what I did to find the solution was the  coordinates−method once more but I had  no time to type it. anyway I didn′t expect  an answer from the original poster...

whatIdidtofindthesolutionwasthecoordinatesmethodoncemorebutIhadnotimetotypeit.anywayIdidntexpectananswerfromtheoriginalposter...

Commented by Tony Lin last updated on 31/Jul/19

actually there is a special way to solve  this question called “ cross ratio”  R(A,B;C,D)=R(E,F;G,H)  (((AC)/(AD))/((BC)/(BD)))=(((EG)/(EH))/((FG)/(FH)))  ((2/3)/(1/2))=((5/(5+x))/(3/(3+x)))  20+4x=15+5x  x=5  but i hope that there are some simple  ways to solve without a theorem that  few people heard  thanks for your help

actuallythereisaspecialwaytosolvethisquestioncalledcrossratioR(A,B;C,D)=R(E,F;G,H)ACADBCBD=EGEHFGFH2312=55+x33+x20+4x=15+5xx=5butihopethattherearesomesimplewaystosolvewithoutatheoremthatfewpeopleheardthanksforyourhelp

Commented by Tony Lin last updated on 31/Jul/19

Commented by Tony Lin last updated on 31/Jul/19

Commented by Tony Lin last updated on 31/Jul/19

without loss of generality  ⇒using coordinate-system hypothesis  let O(0,0),A(0,−s),B(1,−s),C(2,−s)  D(3,−s),E(0,−t),F((6/5),−t−(8/5))  G(3,−t−4),H(x,y)  O,B,F are collinear  ⇒t+(8/5)=(6/5)s  O,C,G are collinear  ⇒t+4=(3/2)s  ⇒ { ((t+(8/5)=(6/5)s)),((t+4=(3/2)s)) :}  ⇒(t,s)=(8,8)  ∵H is the point of intersection of L_(OD) &L_(EG)   ∴ { ((y=((−8)/3)x)),((y=((−4)/3)x−8)) :}  ⇒(x,y)=(6,−16)  GH=(√((6−3)^2 +[−16−(−12)]^2 ))=5  i only think of this idea now

withoutlossofgeneralityusingcoordinatesystemhypothesisletO(0,0),A(0,s),B(1,s),C(2,s)D(3,s),E(0,t),F(65,t85)G(3,t4),H(x,y)O,B,Farecollineart+85=65sO,C,Garecollineart+4=32s{t+85=65st+4=32s(t,s)=(8,8)HisthepointofintersectionofLOD&LEG{y=83xy=43x8(x,y)=(6,16)GH=(63)2+[16(12)]2=5ionlythinkofthisideanow

Commented by MJS last updated on 31/Jul/19

...this is exactly what I did.  thank you both for above theorems

...thisisexactlywhatIdid.thankyoubothforabovetheorems

Commented by mr W last updated on 31/Jul/19

Lin sir, thanks for all the information!

Linsir,thanksforalltheinformation!

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